1 00:00:01,319 --> 00:00:05,110 foreign 2 00:00:11,930 --> 00:00:09,049 Blast Off on another epic episode of the 3 00:00:14,049 --> 00:00:11,940 hyper anomalous esoteric research 4 00:00:17,590 --> 00:00:14,059 organization podcast 5 00:00:20,630 --> 00:00:17,600 AKA hero paranormal 6 00:00:23,029 --> 00:00:20,640 broadcasting just south of the old 7 00:00:26,689 --> 00:00:23,039 Sherman Ranch in the uena Basin of Utah 8 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:26,699 my name is Ryan the anomalous ambassador 9 00:00:33,470 --> 00:00:29,519 of the airwaves bringing you an epic 10 00:00:41,810 --> 00:00:37,389 is it possible that the declassification 11 00:00:45,290 --> 00:00:41,820 of certain documents and programs 12 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:45,300 are giving us a rare Glimpse inside 13 00:00:50,569 --> 00:00:49,140 black budget projects run by sorceress 14 00:00:53,690 --> 00:00:50,579 Elites 15 00:00:56,209 --> 00:00:53,700 shocking revelations are brought by 16 00:00:58,729 --> 00:00:56,219 groundbreaking podcaster and 17 00:01:01,010 --> 00:00:58,739 investigator Ryder Lee 18 00:01:04,670 --> 00:01:01,020 you may know Ryder from his popular 19 00:01:07,929 --> 00:01:04,680 podcast raised by Giants 20 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:07,939 we are going to address project Monarch 21 00:01:13,789 --> 00:01:11,820 hallucinogens Cindy Gottlieb MK Ultra 22 00:01:16,730 --> 00:01:13,799 remote viewing 23 00:01:19,609 --> 00:01:16,740 and even a little bit of this secret 24 00:01:22,010 --> 00:01:19,619 space program regardless of your 25 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:22,020 thoughts on this 26 00:01:28,130 --> 00:01:24,240 it's gonna get weird 27 00:01:30,649 --> 00:01:28,140 and we are going to delve into what it 28 00:01:33,530 --> 00:01:30,659 all really means when it comes to 29 00:01:36,590 --> 00:01:33,540 manipulating our reality and controlling 30 00:01:42,410 --> 00:01:39,530 if you have not 31 00:01:45,050 --> 00:01:42,420 gone over to patreon and looked up hero 32 00:01:48,109 --> 00:01:45,060 paranormal and subscribed I highly 33 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:48,119 recommend it there is a ton of content 34 00:01:54,530 --> 00:01:50,939 behind the paywall you're missing out on 35 00:01:59,630 --> 00:01:54,540 you can also access that content via 36 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:02,389 well get ready to blast off on another 37 00:02:16,170 --> 00:02:40,570 [Music] 38 00:02:45,890 --> 00:02:43,369 let's talk 39 00:02:49,130 --> 00:02:45,900 we've got a great guest today Ryder Lee 40 00:02:51,170 --> 00:02:49,140 it's not hard to promote Ryder he sort 41 00:02:53,089 --> 00:02:51,180 of sells himself with all the 42 00:02:55,850 --> 00:02:53,099 groundbreaking investigative work he 43 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:55,860 does and his podcasting he's one of my 44 00:03:00,770 --> 00:02:58,560 favorite guys to talk about and to talk 45 00:03:03,410 --> 00:03:00,780 to so 46 00:03:04,610 --> 00:03:03,420 Ryder Lee welcome to the hero paranormal 47 00:03:06,530 --> 00:03:04,620 podcast 48 00:03:09,470 --> 00:03:06,540 thanks so much Ryan appreciate you 49 00:03:11,210 --> 00:03:09,480 having me back on this is what the third 50 00:03:12,649 --> 00:03:11,220 third time you've been on my show three 51 00:03:14,330 --> 00:03:12,659 times I think and this is the third one 52 00:03:16,729 --> 00:03:14,340 on yours so I appreciate you my friend 53 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:16,739 I'm looking forward to diving into some 54 00:03:22,250 --> 00:03:19,200 awesome topics with you yeah I think 55 00:03:25,130 --> 00:03:22,260 this is like uh I think it's a trifecta 56 00:03:27,710 --> 00:03:25,140 this is three I think that that's great 57 00:03:29,149 --> 00:03:27,720 I'm super excited and stoked about this 58 00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:29,159 one because we're going to be going into 59 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:31,620 the darker than dark projects black 60 00:03:36,949 --> 00:03:34,620 projects remote viewing all sorts of 61 00:03:38,449 --> 00:03:36,959 strange areas where you've been doing a 62 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:38,459 ton of research talking to the right 63 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:45,890 well Ryan I think that where well I 64 00:03:49,550 --> 00:03:47,760 guess we can go to where this really 65 00:03:51,949 --> 00:03:49,560 started for me and 66 00:03:55,190 --> 00:03:51,959 um I started investigating into the MK 67 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:55,200 Ultra programs and the 149 Declassified 68 00:03:59,869 --> 00:03:57,180 MK Ultra project 69 00:04:02,630 --> 00:03:59,879 and I was reading through all those and 70 00:04:05,809 --> 00:04:02,640 I'm discovering that there's four or 71 00:04:07,449 --> 00:04:05,819 five sub projects that were dedicated 72 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:07,459 just to 73 00:04:15,229 --> 00:04:11,280 researching ESP remote viewing and 74 00:04:16,729 --> 00:04:15,239 psychic abilities right and I'm like 75 00:04:19,009 --> 00:04:16,739 digging deep into that and then I'm also 76 00:04:22,450 --> 00:04:19,019 realizing that almost all of these 77 00:04:26,830 --> 00:04:22,460 sub-projects involve some kind of 78 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:26,840 hallucinogenic substance uh mushrooms 79 00:04:34,189 --> 00:04:29,759 LSD which we know Sydney Gottlieb was 80 00:04:37,930 --> 00:04:34,199 the head of all of these programs and he 81 00:04:40,610 --> 00:04:37,940 had a brother that was a plant biologist 82 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,620 and there's not any confirmation or any 83 00:04:44,749 --> 00:04:42,720 facts surrounding if his brother 84 00:04:47,450 --> 00:04:44,759 actually 85 00:04:50,689 --> 00:04:47,460 created a lot of the medications that he 86 00:04:52,189 --> 00:04:50,699 would experiment on subjects in the MK 87 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:52,199 Ultra programs or not but I just thought 88 00:04:55,730 --> 00:04:53,820 that that was an interesting little side 89 00:04:57,170 --> 00:04:55,740 note there that he had a brother that 90 00:04:58,790 --> 00:04:57,180 was a plant biologist and he's 91 00:05:02,090 --> 00:04:58,800 experimenting on all these different 92 00:05:05,330 --> 00:05:02,100 chemicals and stuff in there and 93 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:05,340 also I found out that a lot of the 94 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:09,620 medications that people are on today 95 00:05:16,749 --> 00:05:13,199 come directly out of the MK Ultra 96 00:05:19,689 --> 00:05:16,759 programs as well like antidepressants 97 00:05:23,870 --> 00:05:19,699 anti-psychotics uh 98 00:05:25,850 --> 00:05:23,880 Adderall Ritalin you know and then we 99 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:25,860 see this uptick in all of these 100 00:05:31,070 --> 00:05:28,560 medications in like the early 90s you 101 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:31,080 know even into the 2000s it starts 102 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:32,759 hitting like really really hard like you 103 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:36,000 have a kid that um you know they take 104 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:37,680 them to the doctor and you can't set 105 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:40,080 still he's just being a kid right and 106 00:05:47,210 --> 00:05:43,440 they'll put the child on the Adderall 107 00:05:49,610 --> 00:05:47,220 Ritalin you know so and those 108 00:05:51,890 --> 00:05:49,620 medications came directly out of the MK 109 00:05:53,570 --> 00:05:51,900 Ultra program so it's like 110 00:05:56,390 --> 00:05:53,580 I'm putting all these things together 111 00:05:59,090 --> 00:05:56,400 and I'm really trying to dig down deep 112 00:06:01,870 --> 00:05:59,100 into exactly what's going on here and 113 00:06:04,310 --> 00:06:01,880 then I start getting into the Stargate 114 00:06:08,689 --> 00:06:04,320 project which 115 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:08,699 is a Dia Army intelligence ran program 116 00:06:15,290 --> 00:06:13,740 to study uh ESP study remote viewing and 117 00:06:19,249 --> 00:06:15,300 they had an official special Access 118 00:06:20,710 --> 00:06:19,259 program the Army started in 119 00:06:24,409 --> 00:06:20,720 um 120 00:06:28,070 --> 00:06:24,419 75 and then Dia started its special 121 00:06:29,689 --> 00:06:28,080 Access program officially in 79. 122 00:06:31,309 --> 00:06:29,699 and 123 00:06:33,770 --> 00:06:31,319 I thought this was interesting because 124 00:06:35,930 --> 00:06:33,780 the they were already doing this during 125 00:06:38,090 --> 00:06:35,940 the MK Ultra programs and then when 126 00:06:41,210 --> 00:06:38,100 Stanford Research Institute 127 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,220 they split from Stanford in 1970 and 128 00:06:45,710 --> 00:06:43,440 then they became known as 129 00:06:49,430 --> 00:06:45,720 the Stanford Research Institute 130 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:49,440 International in 1973 and then they 131 00:06:54,909 --> 00:06:51,840 became funded by the CIA through 132 00:06:57,409 --> 00:06:54,919 directly through Sydney Gottlieb until 133 00:07:00,350 --> 00:06:57,419 uh 75 134 00:07:04,010 --> 00:07:00,360 and then the Air Force picked up the 135 00:07:06,290 --> 00:07:04,020 rest of the funding to Sri so all these 136 00:07:09,170 --> 00:07:06,300 three-letter organizations had their 137 00:07:10,249 --> 00:07:09,180 hands in funding this kind of research 138 00:07:12,830 --> 00:07:10,259 they were doing 139 00:07:14,749 --> 00:07:12,840 they're you know the research on their 140 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:14,759 own and then it was supposed to be given 141 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:16,080 back to 142 00:07:21,290 --> 00:07:19,680 the CIA in 95 and then the CIA just shut 143 00:07:22,850 --> 00:07:21,300 down the Stargate project now the 144 00:07:25,370 --> 00:07:22,860 Stargate project went by many different 145 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:25,380 code names as I'm sure that you're aware 146 00:07:30,670 --> 00:07:28,560 Ryan and went by grow flame Sun streak 147 00:07:34,010 --> 00:07:30,680 uh 148 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:34,020 a a some I can't remember the the other 149 00:07:39,230 --> 00:07:36,240 one but there was many code names for 150 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:39,240 the projects and they were they did that 151 00:07:44,749 --> 00:07:42,479 all the time in the cold War I mean when 152 00:07:47,330 --> 00:07:44,759 you look at prices work whenever he 153 00:07:49,610 --> 00:07:47,340 remote viewed that uh secret military 154 00:07:52,969 --> 00:07:49,620 base in West Virginia he was able to 155 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:52,979 literally see inside of the base and 156 00:07:59,210 --> 00:07:55,440 read all the paperwork that was within 157 00:08:01,490 --> 00:07:59,220 that base and they also used code words 158 00:08:03,290 --> 00:08:01,500 and code names for all of the projects 159 00:08:05,809 --> 00:08:03,300 that they were doing there too and it 160 00:08:07,550 --> 00:08:05,819 all revolved around uh Billiards 161 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:07,560 you know it would be like 162 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:10,500 um you know eight ball project or you 163 00:08:14,089 --> 00:08:12,060 know stuff like that so 164 00:08:17,930 --> 00:08:14,099 it's really interesting and it gets very 165 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:17,940 very convoluted and I have all of the 166 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:20,639 Stargate Declassified documents I have 167 00:08:25,730 --> 00:08:22,800 all of the grill Flames Declassified 168 00:08:27,950 --> 00:08:25,740 documents and the MK Ultra Declassified 169 00:08:30,950 --> 00:08:27,960 documents and 170 00:08:32,389 --> 00:08:30,960 just going through there and I brought a 171 00:08:35,510 --> 00:08:32,399 lot of these people on my show because 172 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:35,520 this is another angle of this too right 173 00:08:42,350 --> 00:08:39,599 is that the people in uh secret space 174 00:08:43,850 --> 00:08:42,360 program asset people and the super 175 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:43,860 soldiers they all talk about the 176 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:46,260 Stargate project like it was an actual 177 00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:48,720 project to open up like a legitimate 178 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:52,080 portal or like a real Stargate and you 179 00:08:55,370 --> 00:08:53,760 could go through the Stargate and then 180 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:55,380 you would you know go to a different 181 00:09:00,530 --> 00:08:57,360 dimension or a different reality or 182 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:00,540 another planet and all of that right or 183 00:09:05,870 --> 00:09:03,720 go to a an alternate reality or or 184 00:09:08,150 --> 00:09:05,880 whatever is going on there and I was 185 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:08,160 like nah I don't think that that's 186 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:10,560 what's going on and I knew that the DIA 187 00:09:13,310 --> 00:09:12,240 had a program it was called the Stargate 188 00:09:16,310 --> 00:09:13,320 project 189 00:09:18,650 --> 00:09:16,320 so I just reached out to all of those 190 00:09:22,250 --> 00:09:18,660 people that were legitimately involved 191 00:09:23,810 --> 00:09:22,260 in the military operations you collect 192 00:09:26,449 --> 00:09:23,820 intelligence information and 193 00:09:29,090 --> 00:09:26,459 intelligence data on foreign assessments 194 00:09:30,650 --> 00:09:29,100 so so far I've had Angela Ford she was 195 00:09:32,449 --> 00:09:30,660 my first guest that was officially a 196 00:09:34,670 --> 00:09:32,459 part of the Stargate project the next 197 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:34,680 one was Lynn Buchanan then Dr David 198 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:37,200 Morehouse Dell graft and then most 199 00:09:44,269 --> 00:09:40,320 recently uh Dr Paul Smith 200 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:44,279 so I really did that to try and 201 00:09:49,750 --> 00:09:47,700 debunk what a lot of what you could call 202 00:09:53,150 --> 00:09:49,760 uh 203 00:09:55,090 --> 00:09:53,160 wakadus in the community to let them 204 00:09:59,630 --> 00:09:55,100 realize that what they're talking about 205 00:10:01,190 --> 00:09:59,640 doesn't line up with reality and 206 00:10:03,410 --> 00:10:01,200 that's the reason that I brought all 207 00:10:05,150 --> 00:10:03,420 these people on my show and also to you 208 00:10:07,070 --> 00:10:05,160 know study and figure out what's really 209 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:07,080 going on because there's there's a lot 210 00:10:12,829 --> 00:10:10,560 of things that just don't line up within 211 00:10:16,430 --> 00:10:12,839 the community that ha that is not 212 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:16,440 reality based but one of them well two 213 00:10:21,230 --> 00:10:19,200 of them is for sure that's done because 214 00:10:23,810 --> 00:10:21,240 there's Declassified documents on it is 215 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:23,820 the MK Ultra programs and the Stargate 216 00:10:28,610 --> 00:10:26,700 project and very verifiable 217 00:10:30,829 --> 00:10:28,620 you can look either one of those 218 00:10:34,070 --> 00:10:30,839 programs up and read through all those 219 00:10:36,070 --> 00:10:34,080 Declassified documents it's they're both 220 00:10:39,769 --> 00:10:36,080 very real 221 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:39,779 projects in very verifiable 222 00:10:46,130 --> 00:10:43,440 um reality so 223 00:10:48,769 --> 00:10:46,140 yeah and I'm really glad that you 224 00:10:51,889 --> 00:10:48,779 mentioned there is you're cutting to the 225 00:10:53,509 --> 00:10:51,899 chase with people like Angela Ford Lynn 226 00:10:55,790 --> 00:10:53,519 Buchanan 227 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:55,800 um Dale Morehouse Paul Smith because 228 00:11:02,810 --> 00:10:58,320 anymore it seems like all you have to do 229 00:11:05,210 --> 00:11:02,820 is go to a UFO conference or uh Expo and 230 00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:05,220 I mean remote viewing is kind of the new 231 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:08,399 catchphrase you know it's like do are 232 00:11:13,310 --> 00:11:10,380 you vegan it's like everybody remote 233 00:11:16,190 --> 00:11:13,320 views and that's just not exactly 234 00:11:18,829 --> 00:11:16,200 compatible with the realistic history 235 00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:18,839 and the controlled the CRV the 236 00:11:23,569 --> 00:11:21,360 controlled remote viewing techniques 237 00:11:26,090 --> 00:11:23,579 that were used by the military so I 238 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:26,100 think that's super important that you 239 00:11:32,930 --> 00:11:28,560 know the CIA wasn't funding all of these 240 00:11:34,970 --> 00:11:32,940 other more uh Bohemian style remote 241 00:11:37,610 --> 00:11:34,980 viewing 242 00:11:40,490 --> 00:11:37,620 angles that I mean because it seems like 243 00:11:42,650 --> 00:11:40,500 you know I I have found it I'm sure 244 00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:42,660 you've found that when you start talking 245 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:46,079 secret space program and remote viewing 246 00:11:50,750 --> 00:11:48,600 that it goes to really random crazy 247 00:11:53,810 --> 00:11:50,760 places and 248 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:53,820 um speaking of that what are your 249 00:11:59,710 --> 00:11:57,360 thoughts of the Mars jump room 250 00:12:09,350 --> 00:12:04,310 see this is where a lot of confusing 251 00:12:17,150 --> 00:12:12,350 see we don't we tend to want to just 252 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:17,160 look at the fairy tale uh nonsensical uh 253 00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:19,920 extra dimensional aspect of this whole 254 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:21,540 thing and people talking about things 255 00:12:26,690 --> 00:12:24,000 that we have absolutely no idea about 256 00:12:28,009 --> 00:12:26,700 and that they they're the only ones to 257 00:12:30,110 --> 00:12:28,019 have that information and they're the 258 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:30,120 only ones that can disseminate that 259 00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:31,680 information but whenever you start 260 00:12:39,170 --> 00:12:34,800 bringing it down to earth I'm talking 261 00:12:43,009 --> 00:12:39,180 about real programs that actually happen 262 00:12:44,530 --> 00:12:43,019 here and you start looking at all of the 263 00:12:49,850 --> 00:12:44,540 psychological 264 00:12:51,829 --> 00:12:49,860 experiments that these three letter 265 00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:51,839 organizations were doing that the 266 00:12:57,650 --> 00:12:54,720 military was doing you start to 267 00:12:59,930 --> 00:12:57,660 understand that it's a very high 268 00:13:04,150 --> 00:12:59,940 possibility that a lot of this 269 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:04,160 phenomenon can be boiled down to a 270 00:13:09,829 --> 00:13:07,920 psychological experiment and that it's 271 00:13:13,250 --> 00:13:09,839 actually happening 272 00:13:15,949 --> 00:13:13,260 in your head it's not external to you 273 00:13:18,170 --> 00:13:15,959 and Carl Young actually talks about that 274 00:13:21,710 --> 00:13:18,180 too he talks about the abduction 275 00:13:25,490 --> 00:13:21,720 phenomenon being something in our psyche 276 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:25,500 that we have yet to understand 277 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:29,100 and I personally believe that a lot of 278 00:13:34,190 --> 00:13:31,200 these memories and a lot of these things 279 00:13:36,829 --> 00:13:34,200 that people recover later on in their 280 00:13:39,050 --> 00:13:36,839 life was planted there 281 00:13:42,590 --> 00:13:39,060 on purpose because we know that that's 282 00:13:45,410 --> 00:13:42,600 what the MK ultra's role was to do it 283 00:13:48,110 --> 00:13:45,420 was to be pattern your mind 284 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:48,120 which is done through a myriad of ways a 285 00:13:53,449 --> 00:13:50,160 lot of times torture now people take 286 00:13:57,230 --> 00:13:53,459 torture as like you're being beaten or 287 00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:57,240 that you're being uh you know hurt in 288 00:14:00,889 --> 00:13:58,800 some kind of way or that you're being 289 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:00,899 tied up and like well it doesn't have to 290 00:14:06,889 --> 00:14:03,060 be that it could be way more subtle it 291 00:14:09,410 --> 00:14:06,899 could be way way easier than that you 292 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:09,420 know they can have you 293 00:14:16,490 --> 00:14:14,160 put your hands on the wall uh for 15 to 294 00:14:18,230 --> 00:14:16,500 16 hours a day you know in like an L 295 00:14:21,050 --> 00:14:18,240 position with your hands on the wall and 296 00:14:24,350 --> 00:14:21,060 you're not able to move you know I mean 297 00:14:26,269 --> 00:14:24,360 it's as simple as that is just because 298 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:26,279 you've been uh d-pattern or you've been 299 00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:28,260 through one of these actual MK launcher 300 00:14:34,190 --> 00:14:30,800 programs doesn't mean that it was 301 00:14:36,110 --> 00:14:34,200 horrendous to you like physically it's a 302 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:36,120 psychological break they want to break 303 00:14:39,530 --> 00:14:37,680 your mind 304 00:14:42,829 --> 00:14:39,540 they want to split your Consciousness 305 00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:42,839 and in half basically and then create 306 00:14:49,790 --> 00:14:46,560 this other persona this other 307 00:14:52,370 --> 00:14:49,800 um compartmentalization of your brain 308 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:52,380 and then feed that compartmentalization 309 00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:55,199 with your brain with false ideas false 310 00:14:59,449 --> 00:14:57,120 beliefs 311 00:15:01,009 --> 00:14:59,459 um false implanted 312 00:15:03,949 --> 00:15:01,019 memories 313 00:15:06,110 --> 00:15:03,959 now I believe that the reason for that 314 00:15:08,030 --> 00:15:06,120 is to 315 00:15:10,850 --> 00:15:08,040 cover up 316 00:15:13,850 --> 00:15:10,860 real operations 317 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:13,860 what we might actually be doing in Space 318 00:15:19,610 --> 00:15:17,279 the the militarization of space what we 319 00:15:22,189 --> 00:15:19,620 might actually be doing with psychics 320 00:15:26,210 --> 00:15:22,199 and remote viewers in these three letter 321 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:26,220 organizations and uh top secret projects 322 00:15:32,269 --> 00:15:28,980 you know and the MK Ultra stuff you know 323 00:15:35,389 --> 00:15:32,279 I had Kathy O'Brien on my show I've had 324 00:15:38,530 --> 00:15:35,399 around twice now and 325 00:15:41,870 --> 00:15:38,540 it really seems like Ryan that 326 00:15:45,949 --> 00:15:41,880 they were afraid 327 00:15:47,569 --> 00:15:45,959 of people rising up and going to uh 328 00:15:49,970 --> 00:15:47,579 Congress and going to government 329 00:15:53,930 --> 00:15:49,980 officials and being like this is what 330 00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:53,940 you did to me you know you you created a 331 00:15:59,210 --> 00:15:57,120 person that you can 100 percent control 332 00:16:01,250 --> 00:15:59,220 you know when you look at the MK Ultra 333 00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:01,260 and the Monarch programs 334 00:16:04,129 --> 00:16:03,360 you see that it was all earth-based 335 00:16:07,750 --> 00:16:04,139 stuff 336 00:16:11,569 --> 00:16:07,760 they were being used for uh 337 00:16:13,009 --> 00:16:11,579 things that I can't exactly say on here 338 00:16:15,889 --> 00:16:13,019 but 339 00:16:19,129 --> 00:16:15,899 like at a White House kind of Pentagon 340 00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:19,139 level with trafficking and uh drug mule 341 00:16:23,949 --> 00:16:22,320 and a lot of sometimes assassins 342 00:16:28,189 --> 00:16:23,959 disinformation 343 00:16:29,329 --> 00:16:28,199 uh people misinformation people you know 344 00:16:36,050 --> 00:16:29,339 and 345 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:36,060 cover up what they've been doing in the 346 00:16:45,769 --> 00:16:43,069 false implanted memories to get people 347 00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:45,779 talking about something they cannot ever 348 00:16:51,769 --> 00:16:48,060 be proven 349 00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:51,779 in order to get everyone believing in 350 00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:53,759 that and then whenever they all believe 351 00:16:59,710 --> 00:16:56,639 in the fairy tale nonsense story space 352 00:17:03,590 --> 00:16:59,720 battle 20 and back advanced technology 353 00:17:04,850 --> 00:17:03,600 nonsense the real thing 354 00:17:07,010 --> 00:17:04,860 can 355 00:17:09,949 --> 00:17:07,020 basically be covered up on the planet 356 00:17:13,789 --> 00:17:09,959 including MK Ultra including psychic 357 00:17:16,010 --> 00:17:13,799 spies including uh remote uh possibly 358 00:17:18,770 --> 00:17:16,020 remote assassins or remote control 359 00:17:20,569 --> 00:17:18,780 people what what might be going on with 360 00:17:23,150 --> 00:17:20,579 the militarization of space what we 361 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:23,160 actually have going on in space 362 00:17:27,710 --> 00:17:26,160 um you know people possibly humans on 363 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:27,720 the moon and possibly 364 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:31,260 humans on Mars as well and that's 365 00:17:35,330 --> 00:17:33,360 something that they would really want to 366 00:17:38,810 --> 00:17:35,340 cover up so they created this whole 367 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:38,820 Narrative of secret space program assets 368 00:17:44,029 --> 00:17:41,760 and super soldier assets saving the 369 00:17:45,490 --> 00:17:44,039 world from Evil aliens and evil 370 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:45,500 reptilians 371 00:17:51,409 --> 00:17:49,200 man it is so important it it this is 372 00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:51,419 this is so huge and you've like zoomed 373 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:53,280 into a bunch of the stuff that I think 374 00:18:00,770 --> 00:17:56,880 is the most important which is you know 375 00:18:04,669 --> 00:18:00,780 yeah if you have these crazy theories 376 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:04,679 and conspiracies that go way beyond the 377 00:18:09,169 --> 00:18:07,320 line of comprehension and all kinds of 378 00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:09,179 people backing it 379 00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:13,679 you surely can avoid more of the mundane 380 00:18:22,250 --> 00:18:17,460 accusations being made towards uh 381 00:18:25,370 --> 00:18:22,260 particular projects and you know at the 382 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:25,380 same time we know that 383 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:28,260 people like the CIA the government and 384 00:18:33,710 --> 00:18:31,200 and such they can't fight fair and and I 385 00:18:35,630 --> 00:18:33,720 I understand it you know my my 386 00:18:37,130 --> 00:18:35,640 father-in-law was a Navy SEAL and he 387 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:37,140 explained to me I remember once I'm like 388 00:18:40,970 --> 00:18:38,880 oh I'm sure they like you know trained 389 00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:40,980 you in karate or Jujitsu or something 390 00:18:48,169 --> 00:18:43,679 and he was like no no they they they 391 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:48,179 they train you to fight dirty and uh you 392 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:50,640 know you you are trained to basically 393 00:18:55,730 --> 00:18:53,100 win no matter what and our intelligence 394 00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:55,740 Community is also trained along the same 395 00:19:00,830 --> 00:18:59,039 lines so it only makes sense that they 396 00:19:02,450 --> 00:19:00,840 would do this sort of stuff because it 397 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:02,460 is you know 398 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,880 for the protection of civilians and at 399 00:19:09,710 --> 00:19:07,440 the end of the day it's so you know our 400 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:09,720 water stays on our heat stays on we keep 401 00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:12,960 paying taxes yada yada and I think it's 402 00:19:18,169 --> 00:19:15,120 super important that you mention 403 00:19:21,850 --> 00:19:18,179 how crazy with the SSP and a lot of this 404 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:21,860 other stuff how willing people are to 405 00:19:26,990 --> 00:19:24,720 acknowledge and believe one hundred 406 00:19:29,930 --> 00:19:27,000 percent of it no matter where it's 407 00:19:33,409 --> 00:19:29,940 coming from and that that's a big deal 408 00:19:36,110 --> 00:19:33,419 because there's a lot of real stuff that 409 00:19:38,529 --> 00:19:36,120 you mentioned with Monarch MK Ultra 410 00:19:41,390 --> 00:19:38,539 Sydney Godley remote viewing the use of 411 00:19:45,230 --> 00:19:41,400 hallucinogenics and all of these Army 412 00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,240 intelligence programs Dia SRI I mean all 413 00:19:50,330 --> 00:19:47,760 the three letter agencies doing the real 414 00:19:53,570 --> 00:19:50,340 business behind closed doors and you 415 00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:53,580 know I I remember this takes me back I 416 00:19:59,150 --> 00:19:56,880 remember when I I went to my first SSE 417 00:20:01,850 --> 00:19:59,160 meeting which is the society for 418 00:20:03,890 --> 00:20:01,860 scientific exploration of which I'm a 419 00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:03,900 member and 420 00:20:09,950 --> 00:20:07,200 I realized quickly that this stuff is 421 00:20:12,529 --> 00:20:09,960 real there are people doing this and 422 00:20:13,970 --> 00:20:12,539 there's people like uh when I went to my 423 00:20:15,850 --> 00:20:13,980 first irva meeting which is the 424 00:20:18,289 --> 00:20:15,860 international remote viewers Association 425 00:20:21,890 --> 00:20:18,299 I realized you know we're just talking 426 00:20:25,010 --> 00:20:21,900 over you know as people have these 427 00:20:27,230 --> 00:20:25,020 demonstrations and you know people there 428 00:20:30,590 --> 00:20:27,240 are people that remote view for a living 429 00:20:32,990 --> 00:20:30,600 so these are very real obviously these 430 00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:33,000 are masters of their craft not people 431 00:20:37,789 --> 00:20:35,940 that are you know Outback just shooting 432 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:37,799 the crap behind the bar saying oh yeah I 433 00:20:41,870 --> 00:20:40,260 remote view on the weekends this is real 434 00:20:46,430 --> 00:20:41,880 stuff and 435 00:20:49,730 --> 00:20:46,440 it is unfortunately very tainted because 436 00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:49,740 of everybody accepting everything and 437 00:20:55,789 --> 00:20:53,039 Yeah the secret space program thing that 438 00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:55,799 really reminds me of someone I know you 439 00:21:01,549 --> 00:20:58,559 know and someone I I respect very much 440 00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:01,559 which is Shane Bales and I love what he 441 00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:03,600 mentioned that the secret space is 442 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:07,200 between your ears am I right exactly 443 00:21:12,830 --> 00:21:10,980 that's exactly what it is and I my 444 00:21:15,970 --> 00:21:12,840 personal belief and there's no proof 445 00:21:18,289 --> 00:21:15,980 behind this this is just a theory and 446 00:21:20,930 --> 00:21:18,299 speculation right and I want to make 447 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:20,940 that very clear here 448 00:21:27,169 --> 00:21:24,900 but I believe that the MK Ultra programs 449 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:27,179 were doubling as something else there 450 00:21:33,230 --> 00:21:30,720 was a another reason to do that and what 451 00:21:36,350 --> 00:21:33,240 I've realized is a lot of these psychics 452 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:36,360 and remote viewers 453 00:21:42,110 --> 00:21:39,360 that automatically had the abilities 454 00:21:44,270 --> 00:21:42,120 right they weren't trained to remove you 455 00:21:46,730 --> 00:21:44,280 they didn't have a manual there wasn't a 456 00:21:50,090 --> 00:21:46,740 step-by-step process in order to be able 457 00:21:52,990 --> 00:21:50,100 to you know remote view right how they 458 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:53,000 got their abilities was 459 00:21:59,090 --> 00:21:56,400 through a near-death experience or an 460 00:22:01,310 --> 00:21:59,100 out of Body Experience 461 00:22:03,529 --> 00:22:01,320 several people 462 00:22:05,330 --> 00:22:03,539 that I've talked to and that I know that 463 00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:05,340 I've talked to personally their 464 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:08,460 abilities were unlocked through a 465 00:22:13,490 --> 00:22:11,039 near-death experience or an out of Body 466 00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:13,500 Experience now again I'm differentiating 467 00:22:18,049 --> 00:22:15,240 here between the people that have been 468 00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:18,059 trained to do it now you you don't have 469 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:19,440 to have an out-of-body experience you 470 00:22:23,330 --> 00:22:20,640 don't have to have a near-death 471 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,340 experience with the how to create the 472 00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:25,440 ability to remove view right that's not 473 00:22:29,810 --> 00:22:26,880 what I'm saying I'm seeing the people 474 00:22:30,890 --> 00:22:29,820 that very first started this remote 475 00:22:33,470 --> 00:22:30,900 viewing 476 00:22:36,049 --> 00:22:33,480 had near-death experiences the the 477 00:22:38,510 --> 00:22:36,059 psychics the real legit psychics the 478 00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:38,520 real legit remote viewers again that 479 00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:40,740 wasn't trained that just automatically 480 00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:43,520 had the ability it's like ego Swan right 481 00:22:48,409 --> 00:22:46,260 he mentioned several times he was 482 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,419 probably one of the best remote viewers 483 00:22:51,950 --> 00:22:50,640 in the the history of remote viewing 484 00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:51,960 right 485 00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:54,600 he had a mini 486 00:22:59,330 --> 00:22:56,700 out-of-body experiences whenever he was 487 00:23:02,630 --> 00:22:59,340 a kid due to being bullied 488 00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:02,640 you mentioned that so many times 489 00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:06,960 so what were they doing in the MK Ultra 490 00:23:12,289 --> 00:23:09,120 programs 491 00:23:14,450 --> 00:23:12,299 and then what was the Monroe Institute 492 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:14,460 also doing 493 00:23:20,450 --> 00:23:17,520 Monroe Institute was trying to induce a 494 00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:20,460 Out of Body Experience 495 00:23:24,169 --> 00:23:22,740 an astral experience to get your 496 00:23:25,370 --> 00:23:24,179 Consciousness or your spirit or your 497 00:23:28,909 --> 00:23:25,380 soul or whatever you want to call it 498 00:23:34,130 --> 00:23:30,169 and 499 00:23:36,289 --> 00:23:34,140 that is a process of 500 00:23:39,950 --> 00:23:36,299 you can also get that kind of process 501 00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:42,890 you traumatized somebody to such a 502 00:23:49,310 --> 00:23:45,360 degree that their Consciousness can 503 00:23:51,890 --> 00:23:49,320 literally leave their body 504 00:23:54,890 --> 00:23:51,900 and that's a lot of what they were doing 505 00:23:57,289 --> 00:23:54,900 within the MK Ultra programs 506 00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:57,299 they were traumatizing people so I'm 507 00:24:01,010 --> 00:23:59,039 putting these pieces together I'm like 508 00:24:03,230 --> 00:24:01,020 okay well 509 00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:03,240 it's really interesting that they were 510 00:24:09,070 --> 00:24:06,000 doing this this trauma based stuff in 511 00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:09,080 order to compartmentalize the brain and 512 00:24:15,289 --> 00:24:13,440 induce this uh this other personality 513 00:24:18,770 --> 00:24:15,299 which they've been known for creating 514 00:24:21,289 --> 00:24:18,780 multiple personality disorder uh did and 515 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:21,299 all of these other mental health issues 516 00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:23,640 and these mental health problems through 517 00:24:30,590 --> 00:24:27,059 the MK Ultra programs so it's not out of 518 00:24:33,529 --> 00:24:30,600 the realm of possibility that this was a 519 00:24:36,890 --> 00:24:33,539 dual use purpose that they were not only 520 00:24:40,510 --> 00:24:36,900 trying to create 521 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:40,520 slaves uh trafficking slaves 522 00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:43,200 assassins disinformationalists and the 523 00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:46,440 whole list of other uh categories that 524 00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:49,200 could be used for Mk Ultra but they were 525 00:25:01,390 --> 00:24:58,690 and then that gets into my 526 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:01,400 Theory after 527 00:25:09,529 --> 00:25:05,760 the CIA shut down the Stargate project 528 00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:09,539 in 95 saying that there wasn't any 529 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:12,120 useful intelligence data ever collected 530 00:25:16,029 --> 00:25:14,159 out of the program 531 00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:16,039 which is a lie they 532 00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:20,580 did no Army intelligence or uh Dia would 533 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:23,760 ever keep a program running for almost 534 00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:26,880 20 years to say that they didn't collect 535 00:25:31,490 --> 00:25:29,460 any valuable intelligence data if they 536 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:31,500 didn't get any good results within a 537 00:25:35,649 --> 00:25:33,120 year they would have just shut it down 538 00:25:40,909 --> 00:25:35,659 then right 539 00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:40,919 my personal thoughts are is 540 00:25:47,210 --> 00:25:43,980 that they created a different program 541 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:47,220 much more nefarious program a much more 542 00:25:50,269 --> 00:25:48,720 invasive 543 00:25:53,810 --> 00:25:50,279 program they found a different 544 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:53,820 application for remote viewing other 545 00:25:59,570 --> 00:25:57,360 than just uh psychic spies and spying on 546 00:26:02,810 --> 00:25:59,580 other countries and sometimes 547 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:02,820 um within the United States I think they 548 00:26:17,049 --> 00:26:11,029 remote control and remote influence and 549 00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:17,059 sometimes even remote assassin program 550 00:26:24,409 --> 00:26:20,760 some people will disagree with me on 551 00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:24,419 that because again there's no proof for 552 00:26:28,010 --> 00:26:26,820 that right it's just my personal 553 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:28,020 thoughts and my personal opinions 554 00:26:32,269 --> 00:26:30,900 connecting all of these dots 555 00:26:34,370 --> 00:26:32,279 and 556 00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,380 but there is kind of proof for it 557 00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:36,720 whenever you you know look around at our 558 00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:38,940 reality you know people are behaving 559 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:42,360 pretty pretty strangely since uh you 560 00:26:50,090 --> 00:26:43,140 know 561 00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:50,100 call them I guess disasters at schools 562 00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:54,840 and at bars and stuff like that right 563 00:27:02,529 --> 00:26:57,120 and 564 00:27:04,909 --> 00:27:02,539 evolved into it evolved into a remote 565 00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:04,919 influence or remote control and there's 566 00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:09,000 actually a document from Ed May that I 567 00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:11,820 have that lays out the step-by-step 568 00:27:18,289 --> 00:27:14,100 process in order to remote influence 569 00:27:19,970 --> 00:27:18,299 people so it's a very real phenomenon it 570 00:27:22,190 --> 00:27:19,980 is possible 571 00:27:24,049 --> 00:27:22,200 there's a document for it that tells you 572 00:27:26,810 --> 00:27:24,059 how to do it 573 00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:26,820 now some people might say oh well it's 574 00:27:31,730 --> 00:27:29,520 it's not as you know intrusive or 575 00:27:34,490 --> 00:27:31,740 whatever but I'm like Hey listen we 576 00:27:36,769 --> 00:27:34,500 influence ourselves every day Ryan 577 00:27:39,169 --> 00:27:36,779 you know with our with our thoughts and 578 00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:39,179 our ideas and and some people use 579 00:27:42,169 --> 00:27:40,799 affirmation you know they'll wake up 580 00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:42,179 they'll say on affirmation or they'll 581 00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:43,440 say an affirmation before they go to 582 00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:44,220 sleep 583 00:27:47,630 --> 00:27:46,080 or whatever that's you influencing 584 00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:47,640 yourself 585 00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:50,940 so why would I not be able to 586 00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:54,600 influence other people psychically 587 00:27:58,370 --> 00:27:56,820 if I can influence myself I would be 588 00:28:01,970 --> 00:27:58,380 able to influence 589 00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:01,980 other people as well if I'm a powerful 590 00:28:07,070 --> 00:28:05,400 enough psychic right 591 00:28:09,649 --> 00:28:07,080 and 592 00:28:14,090 --> 00:28:09,659 I think that's exactly what this whole 593 00:28:17,149 --> 00:28:14,100 thing evolved into was a psychic remote 594 00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:17,159 influence and and a lot of times uh 595 00:28:21,769 --> 00:28:20,159 sometimes a remote assassin program now 596 00:28:24,590 --> 00:28:21,779 I had the different idea and a different 597 00:28:26,210 --> 00:28:24,600 concept of what this was before but then 598 00:28:29,090 --> 00:28:26,220 whenever I started thinking about it 599 00:28:31,549 --> 00:28:29,100 more because 600 00:28:34,669 --> 00:28:31,559 Lynn Buchanan talked about that he was 601 00:28:39,049 --> 00:28:34,679 approached by Men In Black they asked 602 00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:39,059 him if he could kill an individual with 603 00:28:47,450 --> 00:28:45,950 he said he said that he wouldn't do it 604 00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:47,460 but I asked him in our interview 605 00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:50,220 together I was like Hey like 606 00:28:54,049 --> 00:28:52,440 is it possible to do though 607 00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:54,059 could you have done it if you wanted to 608 00:28:57,890 --> 00:28:55,380 do it 609 00:28:59,570 --> 00:28:57,900 and you said yes yes I could have 610 00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:59,580 and 611 00:29:03,289 --> 00:29:01,200 I was like huh 612 00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:03,299 well that kind of seems like the lazy 613 00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,400 way to do it right 614 00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:07,679 you you wouldn't just wanna 615 00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:11,580 psychically kill somebody outright 616 00:29:17,450 --> 00:29:14,480 you know you would wanna 617 00:29:19,970 --> 00:29:17,460 psychically influence or psychically 618 00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,980 control 619 00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:22,159 somebody else 620 00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:31,389 it'd be like holy [\h__\h] this is exactly 621 00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:35,220 uh what they've done and what they have 622 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:37,020 been doing 623 00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:40,260 and again I think that that 624 00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:44,340 program evolved once more and then that 625 00:29:51,649 --> 00:29:48,240 program turned into a technology 626 00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:51,659 to where they don't have to use psychics 627 00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:53,520 or remote viewers to be able to 628 00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,970 they just have a technology that they 629 00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:00,480 can flip on 630 00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:02,720 which was proof of this 631 00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:06,000 v2k technology there's a technology to 632 00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:10,380 be able to control your nervous system 633 00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:13,020 you know these patents for all of this 634 00:30:17,330 --> 00:30:13,919 stuff 635 00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,450 there's evidence that 636 00:30:25,310 --> 00:30:22,799 that's exactly what is happening and 637 00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:25,320 it's completely taken the human element 638 00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:28,620 out of this they no longer use psychics 639 00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,940 to remove yours because they've 640 00:30:33,529 --> 00:30:31,679 developed it into a technology and 641 00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:33,539 that's exactly what she and the Ruiner 642 00:30:36,649 --> 00:30:35,460 talks about too as well that they're 643 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,659 trying to take 644 00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:38,720 our natural 645 00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:42,240 spiritual abilities and duplicate it and 646 00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:44,700 turn it into some kind of technology to 647 00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:47,100 be able to use on the public 648 00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:50,240 and then that also gets into 649 00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:52,620 supplanting thoughts ideas memories 650 00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:56,700 beliefs into your head via technology 651 00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,679 I decided Elena Freeland on my show that 652 00:31:06,289 --> 00:31:03,840 show will be really soon and she's 653 00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:06,299 written several books on 654 00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:10,200 this technology and how harmful and 655 00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:14,460 dangerous it can be to to the public and 656 00:31:20,930 --> 00:31:16,980 she also talks about dual use from 657 00:31:23,450 --> 00:31:20,940 military uh technology as well they they 658 00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:23,460 do they don't do anything for just one 659 00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:25,679 reason it's a multi-layered 660 00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:28,440 purpose they have it for something that 661 00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:30,360 they can use militarily and then they 662 00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:31,740 also have it 663 00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:34,020 another use for it that can be used on 664 00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:35,520 the public 665 00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:38,399 and uh you know the general 666 00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:40,559 population 667 00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:43,380 so whenever you look at these MK Ultra 668 00:31:48,889 --> 00:31:45,960 programs and you realize that 669 00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:48,899 a lot of these medications that people 670 00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:51,419 are on 671 00:31:58,010 --> 00:31:54,799 now came directly from the MK Ultra 672 00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,020 programs and then you look at how they 673 00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,480 would psychically drive people in the MK 674 00:32:04,730 --> 00:32:02,159 Ultra programs that would take any 675 00:32:07,130 --> 00:32:04,740 looped audio message and play it over 676 00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,140 and over and over again nobody knows 677 00:32:14,269 --> 00:32:09,679 what was on those looped audio messages 678 00:32:17,330 --> 00:32:14,279 and they've just transferred that type 679 00:32:18,649 --> 00:32:17,340 of looped audio message onto a TV screen 680 00:32:20,930 --> 00:32:18,659 in your living room and in your bedroom 681 00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,940 and in your pocket 682 00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:22,320 right so 683 00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:25,080 they de-pattern you with a traumatic 684 00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:25,980 event 685 00:32:30,830 --> 00:32:28,020 they drug you 686 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:30,840 which I looked up statistics from 2014 687 00:32:38,450 --> 00:32:34,559 to 2016 and 688 00:32:42,049 --> 00:32:38,460 almost half the U.S population is on 689 00:32:46,730 --> 00:32:42,059 some sort of pharmaceutical medication 690 00:32:49,789 --> 00:32:46,740 66 of adults in the United States are on 691 00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:49,799 a pharmaceutical medication 692 00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:53,279 within they psychically drive you 693 00:32:59,450 --> 00:32:56,700 they put that looped repeated message 694 00:33:02,330 --> 00:32:59,460 on your TV screen 695 00:33:07,130 --> 00:33:05,090 to program you to believe whatever they 696 00:33:10,850 --> 00:33:07,140 want you to believe 697 00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:10,860 which is exactly what they were doing in 698 00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:13,679 the early 50s with Amtrak programs now 699 00:33:19,009 --> 00:33:16,380 it's just open air testing they're just 700 00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:19,019 doing it to everyone 701 00:33:29,389 --> 00:33:27,769 super dark and yeah I mean I can get why 702 00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:29,399 they would want something where they can 703 00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:31,140 just flip a switch more like a 704 00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:32,700 technology although we already have it 705 00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:36,000 within us as human beings and you 706 00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:37,559 brought something up that kind of ties 707 00:33:43,250 --> 00:33:39,840 into something you said earlier 708 00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:43,260 which is much how the MK Ultra splits 709 00:33:48,889 --> 00:33:45,120 your Consciousness and splits your mind 710 00:33:52,909 --> 00:33:48,899 in half and I know this sounds strangely 711 00:33:54,769 --> 00:33:52,919 similar to hemisync technology which 712 00:33:57,409 --> 00:33:54,779 comes from go figure the Monroe 713 00:34:00,590 --> 00:33:57,419 Institute and for those that are unaware 714 00:34:03,769 --> 00:34:00,600 Robert Monroe is an interesting cat you 715 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:03,779 should definitely read his book Journeys 716 00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:06,240 out of the body he was a Virginia 717 00:34:10,669 --> 00:34:07,919 businessman that started having 718 00:34:14,089 --> 00:34:10,679 experiences that were quite literally 719 00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,099 out of his body into this second what he 720 00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:16,560 called the second body but yeah this 721 00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:20,159 Monroe Institute Robert Monroe and this 722 00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:23,280 technology of quite literally hemisync 723 00:34:27,889 --> 00:34:25,560 technology what what are your thoughts 724 00:34:30,290 --> 00:34:27,899 of hemisync and you know the fact that 725 00:34:32,930 --> 00:34:30,300 it it seems like just about everybody 726 00:34:34,849 --> 00:34:32,940 and anybody is using the Monroe app 727 00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:34,859 these days that is involved with 728 00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:37,740 government uh intelligence and and 729 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:39,240 that's something that you didn't hear 730 00:34:43,490 --> 00:34:40,560 from me but 731 00:34:44,930 --> 00:34:43,500 I mean they have an app and I've talked 732 00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:44,940 to a lot of people in intelligence and 733 00:34:48,109 --> 00:34:46,200 they're like oh yeah we got it we use it 734 00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:48,119 all the time and they are taking trips 735 00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:50,580 to the Monroe Institute and getting 736 00:34:54,829 --> 00:34:53,220 trained in this and it's sort of a 737 00:34:57,410 --> 00:34:54,839 tongue-in-cheek everybody's doing it 738 00:35:01,490 --> 00:34:57,420 nobody's talking about it sort of a 739 00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:01,500 thing in intelligence circles so it 740 00:35:06,530 --> 00:35:04,500 sounds strangely similar to splitting 741 00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:06,540 your mind in half 742 00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:09,240 yes it is very similar and Army 743 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:11,660 intelligence and the CIA were both 744 00:35:17,329 --> 00:35:15,180 investigating the Monroe Institute as 745 00:35:18,970 --> 00:35:17,339 well as actually mentioned in the 746 00:35:21,890 --> 00:35:18,980 girlflame 747 00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:21,900 documents the Declassified documents how 748 00:35:29,870 --> 00:35:24,900 they uh paid 749 00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:29,880 Robert Monroe I think 200 to go in and 750 00:35:33,050 --> 00:35:31,980 study to send 751 00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:33,060 um army 752 00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:36,060 intelligence people to the Monroe 753 00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:39,060 Institute to study this out of body Hemi 754 00:35:42,589 --> 00:35:39,980 sink 755 00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:42,599 technology that Robert Monroe was 756 00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:45,300 working on and there's Declassified 757 00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:47,400 documents 758 00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:50,640 of the report that Army intelligence and 759 00:35:58,430 --> 00:35:55,440 the CIA both wrote a report on the 760 00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:58,440 Monroe Institute 761 00:36:02,569 --> 00:36:01,440 and I think that because some of the 762 00:36:04,190 --> 00:36:02,579 people that I've interviewed from the 763 00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:04,200 Stargate project 764 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:06,960 commented on 765 00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:12,240 that they did have access to the Monroe 766 00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:14,420 institute's hemisync tapes 767 00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,200 and they were able to use them but it 768 00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:22,320 wasn't like a requirement so there's a 769 00:36:27,950 --> 00:36:25,200 really big connection between the Monroe 770 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:27,960 Institute and Army intelligence and the 771 00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:30,240 CIA and all of these different projects 772 00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:32,280 and I haven't quite 773 00:36:39,710 --> 00:36:34,980 connected the dots yet 774 00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:39,720 on what the role is now I do know 775 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:43,980 that some people have gotten confused 776 00:36:47,569 --> 00:36:46,260 by the Monroe Institute because they had 777 00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,579 a problem it was called the gateway 778 00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:48,960 project 779 00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:52,260 was the Monroe Institute said anything 780 00:36:56,990 --> 00:36:54,300 um trying to induce a out-of-body 781 00:37:01,730 --> 00:36:57,000 experience and some people that were 782 00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:04,310 got confused and thought that they were 783 00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,680 a part of a remote viewing Dia Army 784 00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:10,079 intelligence program yep I've heard that 785 00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:10,920 too 786 00:37:16,010 --> 00:37:13,440 yep that's really muddied the waters 787 00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:16,020 between those two different programs and 788 00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:18,060 it's also important to 789 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:21,480 make clear as well is that the Monroe 790 00:37:28,190 --> 00:37:25,680 Institute wasn't into remote viewing 791 00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,200 that had nothing to do with remote 792 00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,720 viewing but somehow 793 00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:32,640 they are linked 794 00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:35,400 in there in some way I'm gonna have to 795 00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:37,260 read through all of those documents 796 00:37:40,130 --> 00:37:38,700 again and try and 797 00:37:43,069 --> 00:37:40,140 figure out 798 00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:43,079 what the the linkage is there in some 799 00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:45,800 kind of factual evidence but it has 800 00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:48,720 muddied the waters between 801 00:37:54,589 --> 00:37:50,880 the Monroe institute's Gateway project 802 00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:54,599 and then the DIA Army intelligence 803 00:37:58,609 --> 00:37:55,980 Stargate 804 00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,619 project as well the the Monroe Institute 805 00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:00,240 is called the gateway experience it's 806 00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:04,079 not the Gateway project but 807 00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:06,900 I think the people have gotten those two 808 00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:08,460 things confused so it's important to 809 00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:11,400 make the distinction there that Monroe 810 00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:13,560 Institute was not studying remote 811 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:18,540 viewing had really nothing to do with 812 00:38:23,089 --> 00:38:19,140 um 813 00:38:27,470 --> 00:38:23,099 Dia and Army intelligence remote viewing 814 00:38:30,670 --> 00:38:27,480 program or ESP program psychic program 815 00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:30,680 and that they were two separate things 816 00:38:36,530 --> 00:38:33,599 running kind of simultaneously even 817 00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:36,540 though the CIA and Army intelligence did 818 00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:38,520 write reports there's Declassified 819 00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:41,040 reports on the Monroe Institute I'm just 820 00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:43,740 gonna have to do some more study on that 821 00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:46,500 and and try and figure out the the real 822 00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:48,540 connections and why 823 00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:51,960 they were so interested in the Monroe 824 00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,820 Institute inducing an out-of-body 825 00:38:58,370 --> 00:38:55,680 experience but my personal thoughts is 826 00:39:00,910 --> 00:38:58,380 that it is connected to remote viewing 827 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:00,920 and if they can 828 00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,560 induce a out of body experience without 829 00:39:08,750 --> 00:39:07,440 having to use trauma 830 00:39:12,770 --> 00:39:08,760 then 831 00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:12,780 they can create psychics on their own 832 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:15,000 they can create 833 00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:18,240 psychic spies for intelligence data they 834 00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:19,619 can create 835 00:39:25,609 --> 00:39:22,020 psychic uh 836 00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:25,619 um remote controllers remote influencers 837 00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,560 I think that without any proof I think 838 00:39:34,910 --> 00:39:31,200 that that's a solid Connection in a 839 00:39:37,730 --> 00:39:34,920 solid theory that because a lot of 840 00:39:40,609 --> 00:39:37,740 people didn't survive those MK Ultra 841 00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:40,619 programs right and they're just wasting 842 00:39:44,990 --> 00:39:42,420 assets 843 00:39:47,450 --> 00:39:45,000 they're just wasting people Kathy 844 00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:47,460 O'Brien said even 845 00:39:55,150 --> 00:39:52,320 very few actually made it out of the uh 846 00:39:58,910 --> 00:39:55,160 programs and got to be used 847 00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:58,920 in any kind of operation and then even 848 00:40:02,990 --> 00:40:01,200 the people that were used in the 849 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:03,000 operation were normally killed by the 850 00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:07,200 age of 30. yep right so 851 00:40:11,329 --> 00:40:09,780 when you look at it like that you would 852 00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:11,339 think that they would try and figure out 853 00:40:35,450 --> 00:40:12,300 a 854 00:40:38,089 --> 00:40:35,460 good uh good people 855 00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,099 in their eyes they're wasting good 856 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:40,079 people right that's not my personal I 857 00:40:44,210 --> 00:40:41,520 don't think any of that stuff should 858 00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:44,220 ever be done to any individual right 859 00:40:47,450 --> 00:40:45,599 but 860 00:40:48,829 --> 00:40:47,460 I think if you look at it like that that 861 00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:48,839 they're trying to induce an Autobody 862 00:40:53,390 --> 00:40:50,760 experiencing and if my theory is correct 863 00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:53,400 in that the out-of-body experience or 864 00:40:58,010 --> 00:40:55,320 near-death experience has something to 865 00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:58,020 do with these abilities then they would 866 00:41:02,329 --> 00:40:59,940 want to study that they would want to 867 00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:02,339 get to the bottom of that in order of 868 00:41:08,210 --> 00:41:04,980 instead of just traumatizing people to 869 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,220 unlock the abilities or create a uh MK 870 00:41:12,109 --> 00:41:11,040 Ultra slave to do God knows what on the 871 00:41:14,089 --> 00:41:12,119 planet 872 00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:14,099 they would just 873 00:41:18,530 --> 00:41:16,859 do it Hemi sink like to get the 874 00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:18,540 consciousness 875 00:41:24,349 --> 00:41:21,119 out of the body sure 876 00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:24,359 it makes perfect sense and you know I 877 00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:26,700 really like that you mentioned the 878 00:41:31,790 --> 00:41:30,000 scenario with Ingo Swan whose story is 879 00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:31,800 every bit as intriguing as Robert 880 00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:35,280 Monroe's and how these near-death out of 881 00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:38,940 body experiences are still you know more 882 00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:41,460 or less a psychic break albeit a 883 00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:43,560 naturally occurring one 884 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:45,900 so obviously when you're trying to 885 00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:48,800 recreate this in a lab 886 00:41:54,829 --> 00:41:52,560 you know surroundings things could get 887 00:41:57,290 --> 00:41:54,839 ugly really quick and something I've 888 00:42:00,010 --> 00:41:57,300 heard about that is interesting and I 889 00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:00,020 don't know just how consequential 890 00:42:04,310 --> 00:42:02,700 consequential it is because we are 891 00:42:06,010 --> 00:42:04,320 seeing a lot of 892 00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:06,020 drastic 893 00:42:12,829 --> 00:42:09,119 actions by people who typically would 894 00:42:17,690 --> 00:42:12,839 not be taking these drastic actions and 895 00:42:20,030 --> 00:42:17,700 it appears as if some of their ability 896 00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:20,040 uh to follow through with these 897 00:42:26,329 --> 00:42:22,980 objectives come from outside of 898 00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:26,339 themselves or you know quote unquote out 899 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,220 of body and I'm wondering how much of 900 00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:31,680 this is that patterning that you're 901 00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,540 discussing because it is all about 902 00:42:36,109 --> 00:42:35,280 getting some much like training an 903 00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:36,119 animal 904 00:42:40,910 --> 00:42:39,240 getting something used to a pattern you 905 00:42:44,030 --> 00:42:40,920 know kind of like Pavlov and his dogs 906 00:42:46,670 --> 00:42:44,040 that pavlovian theory where you want a 907 00:42:48,530 --> 00:42:46,680 desired objective in the physical and if 908 00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:48,540 you just keep doing the same thing in 909 00:42:54,770 --> 00:42:52,260 the background you will get that and um 910 00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,780 I wanted to ask you if you think if 911 00:42:58,370 --> 00:42:56,880 there's any cases in more modern times 912 00:43:01,309 --> 00:42:58,380 that you could point a finger out and 913 00:43:03,890 --> 00:43:01,319 say you know I'm not sure but this may 914 00:43:09,290 --> 00:43:03,900 have been 915 00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:12,650 I really think that a large majority of 916 00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,819 it is 917 00:43:21,309 --> 00:43:16,800 I think that 918 00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:21,319 the contact experiences the the UFO 919 00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:26,300 sightings uh traumatic events that 920 00:43:34,190 --> 00:43:30,240 have happened in the past 20 years 921 00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:34,200 involving schools 922 00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:34,800 um 923 00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:37,500 grade schools majority 924 00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:38,460 um 925 00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:42,240 and bars and super stores and all that 926 00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:43,380 you just have to put two and two 927 00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:44,760 together here 928 00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:46,440 um yeah you know exactly what I'm 929 00:43:52,809 --> 00:43:48,720 talking about you have all been 930 00:43:57,890 --> 00:43:56,329 psychological experiments 931 00:44:00,410 --> 00:43:57,900 and 932 00:44:02,650 --> 00:44:00,420 when it comes to the it's exactly like 933 00:44:08,089 --> 00:44:02,660 what's happening now with the 934 00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:08,099 the balloon nonsense right and the the 935 00:44:14,809 --> 00:44:12,240 media jumping on the bandwagon of 936 00:44:15,890 --> 00:44:14,819 unidentified flying objects 937 00:44:17,329 --> 00:44:15,900 right 938 00:44:19,609 --> 00:44:17,339 uh 939 00:44:22,010 --> 00:44:19,619 they're like oh there's so many so many 940 00:44:24,589 --> 00:44:22,020 UFOs were getting invaded uh there's so 941 00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:24,599 many unidentified things as happening in 942 00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:27,240 the sky right now and gets in why 943 00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:30,240 wouldn't they have mentioned this to 10 944 00:44:36,770 --> 00:44:34,079 to 15 or even 20 years ago 945 00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:36,780 you know it's an agenda it's uh it's an 946 00:44:43,609 --> 00:44:39,000 operation 947 00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:43,619 right why didn't name why did it take 948 00:44:50,809 --> 00:44:47,040 since the Roswell event in 1947 all the 949 00:44:54,109 --> 00:44:50,819 way until 2020 for the government 950 00:44:57,710 --> 00:44:54,119 to admit that there are real 951 00:44:59,390 --> 00:44:57,720 unidentified flying objects in the sky 952 00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,400 they just want us to forget about all 953 00:45:03,530 --> 00:45:01,680 that other nonsense because they finally 954 00:45:04,849 --> 00:45:03,540 came out and admitted it and the only 955 00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:04,859 reason that they would do that is 956 00:45:14,809 --> 00:45:12,710 literally that's that's the only reason 957 00:45:17,089 --> 00:45:14,819 that they would do it 958 00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:17,099 if it wasn't a psychological operation 959 00:45:24,349 --> 00:45:21,599 they would have admitted it way sooner 960 00:45:26,930 --> 00:45:24,359 decades ago 961 00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:26,940 they've been like oh yeah guess what uh 962 00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:30,240 there are uh unidentified flying objects 963 00:45:35,690 --> 00:45:32,940 or unident unidentified aerial 964 00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:35,700 phenomenon going on 965 00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:42,320 and that only concludes 966 00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:43,980 [Music] 967 00:45:48,250 --> 00:45:45,960 one scenario 968 00:45:50,210 --> 00:45:48,260 that it's a 969 00:45:52,370 --> 00:45:50,220 full-fledged 970 00:45:54,890 --> 00:45:52,380 psychological operation and we know that 971 00:45:57,170 --> 00:45:54,900 the Air Force was also interested in MK 972 00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:57,180 Ultra stuff 973 00:46:05,870 --> 00:46:00,720 apparently which again there's no 974 00:46:09,050 --> 00:46:05,880 proof for this either but apparently 975 00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:09,060 the Air Force picked up the MK Ultra 976 00:46:14,089 --> 00:46:12,480 programs after the CIA took the fall for 977 00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:14,099 them 978 00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:15,960 and they just picked up right where the 979 00:46:20,809 --> 00:46:19,200 CIA left off and they've been running 980 00:46:22,730 --> 00:46:20,819 the operation 981 00:46:24,650 --> 00:46:22,740 sense 982 00:46:27,470 --> 00:46:24,660 since the mid 50s 983 00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:27,480 uh-huh which 984 00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:31,380 makes a lot of sense surrounding E.T 985 00:46:36,050 --> 00:46:33,359 contacts surrounding 986 00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:36,060 UFOs I mean who's in charge of their 987 00:46:40,609 --> 00:46:37,440 space 988 00:46:45,710 --> 00:46:42,890 so it makes sense that 989 00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:45,720 if they were running 990 00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:48,480 some kind of op 991 00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:51,660 it would have to do with 992 00:46:54,890 --> 00:46:53,700 aliens and UFOs 993 00:46:58,670 --> 00:46:54,900 now 994 00:46:59,809 --> 00:46:58,680 I'm not saying that aliens don't exist 995 00:47:03,230 --> 00:46:59,819 right 996 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,240 don't uh don't confuse the audience 997 00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:05,520 isn't confusing what I'm saying here I'm 998 00:47:12,290 --> 00:47:08,400 not saying that they don't exist in that 999 00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:12,300 people's contact experiences weren't 1000 00:47:19,010 --> 00:47:14,760 real to them 1001 00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:19,020 but it is very possible Ryan with 1002 00:47:24,829 --> 00:47:21,300 the kind of technology that we have now 1003 00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,839 the v2k technology the the manipulation 1004 00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:26,880 of our nervous system with the 1005 00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:29,760 implantation of thoughts ideas beliefs 1006 00:47:34,190 --> 00:47:33,119 directly into our head distance does not 1007 00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:34,200 matter 1008 00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:37,680 they can do this to anyone anywhere on 1009 00:47:41,809 --> 00:47:39,359 the planet 1010 00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:41,819 and it's just interesting 1011 00:47:48,410 --> 00:47:43,560 after 1012 00:47:52,550 --> 00:47:48,420 the cia's MTN Ultra programs went 1013 00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:52,560 open air to everybody on the planet 1014 00:47:58,370 --> 00:47:55,859 everyone started having these 1015 00:48:01,069 --> 00:47:58,380 contact experiences and saying that 1016 00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:01,079 they've been abducted by 1017 00:48:07,309 --> 00:48:04,440 aliens that they've seen several UFOs in 1018 00:48:09,950 --> 00:48:07,319 the sky uh-huh 1019 00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:09,960 it's just this I don't know maybe it's 1020 00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:11,760 just a coincidence 1021 00:48:17,390 --> 00:48:15,240 who knows but I think that it's it's 1022 00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:17,400 very very strange and we've seen this 1023 00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:21,000 uptick since the early 2000s 1024 00:48:24,530 --> 00:48:22,640 of 1025 00:48:27,290 --> 00:48:24,540 contactees 1026 00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:27,300 the abduction phenomenon which we know 1027 00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:29,700 that the abductions started with uh 1028 00:48:34,190 --> 00:48:32,520 Betty and Barney Hill which was not 1029 00:48:36,770 --> 00:48:34,200 started there but that was the most 1030 00:48:38,990 --> 00:48:36,780 mainstream one that was ever reported in 1031 00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:39,000 1961 1032 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:40,440 you know and then it's just kind of 1033 00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:41,760 snowballed 1034 00:48:47,170 --> 00:48:45,060 from there and again 1961 was after all 1035 00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:47,180 of the MK Ultra programs it was after 1036 00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:50,400 World War II 1037 00:48:59,329 --> 00:48:56,510 any documentation 1038 00:49:03,109 --> 00:48:59,339 describing 1039 00:49:05,329 --> 00:49:03,119 anyone being abducted by a UFO now this 1040 00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:05,339 is very specific here I'm not talking 1041 00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:09,000 about entity abduction or Ferry 1042 00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:12,780 abduction or any of that stuff 1043 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:15,599 I can't find one case 1044 00:49:20,089 --> 00:49:18,720 and if someone has it please uh send it 1045 00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:20,099 to me or something because I'd be very 1046 00:49:28,250 --> 00:49:24,480 interested to read about it that 1047 00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:28,260 before Betty and Barney Hill of 1961 1048 00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:31,680 that they were abducted by a UFO 1049 00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:35,280 and taken on a ship and experimented on 1050 00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:37,859 by aliens 1051 00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:45,050 no not not that I'm aware of unless you 1052 00:49:49,130 --> 00:49:45,839 know 1053 00:49:50,690 --> 00:49:49,140 it's super super rare and old 1054 00:49:53,530 --> 00:49:50,700 and 1055 00:49:56,569 --> 00:49:53,540 it does seem like these psychological 1056 00:50:01,370 --> 00:49:56,579 Opera operations kind of have a 1057 00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:01,380 parapsychology Twist to them and the 1058 00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:04,380 consequences are crazy I mean and I'm 1059 00:50:08,450 --> 00:50:06,839 I'm probably gonna get into a little bit 1060 00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,460 of trouble and I probably shouldn't even 1061 00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:10,319 say what I'm going to say mentioning in 1062 00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:12,540 a comment but 1063 00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:14,760 you know a government remote viewing 1064 00:50:20,809 --> 00:50:17,640 program that had a lot to do with the 1065 00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:20,819 invasion of Iraq and even the use of the 1066 00:50:24,770 --> 00:50:23,220 Stargate program I won't mention the 1067 00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:24,780 viewer but you know him and I know him 1068 00:50:32,930 --> 00:50:28,260 to view and jump into saddam's head 1069 00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:32,940 uh he you know and and then we have uh 1070 00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:36,720 Saddam Hussein being taken out get this 1071 00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:41,160 by his own people I mean if that isn't 1072 00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,880 proof of this I mean most Iraqis loved 1073 00:50:49,849 --> 00:50:46,800 the guy they had him on his watches they 1074 00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:49,859 had pictures of him on their car you 1075 00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,040 know sent trees his picture on their 1076 00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,440 watches I mean they hated his son but 1077 00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:57,599 most loved Saddam they had pictures of 1078 00:51:05,450 --> 00:51:01,200 him in their house but I was floored 1079 00:51:08,809 --> 00:51:05,460 after the whole Iraqi situation that he 1080 00:51:11,569 --> 00:51:08,819 was taken out by his own people and it 1081 00:51:14,510 --> 00:51:11,579 just it perfectly seems explained by 1082 00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,520 some of these Declassified CIA documents 1083 00:51:18,829 --> 00:51:16,319 like you're discussing that are coming 1084 00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,839 out where they have figured this 1085 00:51:23,329 --> 00:51:20,640 patterning and I wanted to read a really 1086 00:51:24,770 --> 00:51:23,339 quick this is from the Monroe Institute 1087 00:51:26,089 --> 00:51:24,780 yes 1088 00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:26,099 um Magic 1089 00:51:30,530 --> 00:51:29,220 this is and the the amount of data that 1090 00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:30,540 goes into this I don't think people 1091 00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:34,260 understand how much they have studied 1092 00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,960 this so it sounds crazy but here it is 1093 00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:39,119 Magic perfectly explained and 1094 00:51:44,750 --> 00:51:42,180 Declassified CIA document this technique 1095 00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:44,760 involves the use of Consciousness to 1096 00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:46,559 achieve desired objectives in the 1097 00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:48,540 physical emotional or intellectual 1098 00:51:54,109 --> 00:51:51,359 sphere it involves concentration on the 1099 00:51:56,510 --> 00:51:54,119 desired objective while in Focus 12 1100 00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,520 State Extension of the individual's 1101 00:52:01,609 --> 00:51:59,040 perception that the objective into the 1102 00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,619 whole expanded Consciousness and its 1103 00:52:05,870 --> 00:52:03,359 projection into the universe with the 1104 00:52:07,250 --> 00:52:05,880 intention that the desired object is 1105 00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,260 already a matter of established 1106 00:52:11,770 --> 00:52:09,599 achievement which is destined to be 1107 00:52:14,750 --> 00:52:11,780 realized within the time frame specified 1108 00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:14,760 this particular methodology is based on 1109 00:52:19,309 --> 00:52:17,040 the belief that the thought patterns 1110 00:52:21,170 --> 00:52:19,319 generated by our Consciousness in a 1111 00:52:24,170 --> 00:52:21,180 state of expanded awareness create 1112 00:52:26,930 --> 00:52:24,180 Holograms which present the situation we 1113 00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:26,940 desire to Spring about and in doing so 1114 00:52:31,970 --> 00:52:29,040 establish the basis for actual 1115 00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:31,980 realization of the goal once the 1116 00:52:36,589 --> 00:52:34,140 thought-generated Hologram of the sought 1117 00:52:39,710 --> 00:52:36,599 after objective is established in the 1118 00:52:43,490 --> 00:52:39,720 universe it becomes an aspect of reality 1119 00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:43,500 which interacts with the universal 1120 00:52:49,849 --> 00:52:46,260 hologram to bring about the desired 1121 00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:49,859 objective which might not otherwise 1122 00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:53,280 be possible under other circumstances or 1123 00:52:58,130 --> 00:52:55,920 ever occur in other words the technique 1124 00:53:00,589 --> 00:52:58,140 of patterning recognizes the fact that 1125 00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:00,599 since Consciousness is the source of all 1126 00:53:05,089 --> 00:53:03,119 reality our thoughts have the power to 1127 00:53:07,609 --> 00:53:05,099 influence the development of reality and 1128 00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:07,619 time space and applies to us if those 1129 00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:10,260 thoughts can be projected with adequate 1130 00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,660 intensity however 1131 00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:14,640 the most complicated and more 1132 00:53:19,549 --> 00:53:17,520 complicated the objective sought and the 1133 00:53:21,710 --> 00:53:19,559 more radically it departs from our 1134 00:53:24,589 --> 00:53:21,720 current reality the more time the 1135 00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:24,599 universal hologram will need to reorient 1136 00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:27,359 the reality sphere to accommodate our 1137 00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:30,559 desires Monroe trainers caution against 1138 00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:33,420 attempting to force the pace of this 1139 00:53:39,770 --> 00:53:36,420 process because the individual could 1140 00:53:44,109 --> 00:53:39,780 succeed in dislocating his existing 1141 00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,119 reality with drastic consequences 1142 00:53:48,049 --> 00:53:46,079 wow 1143 00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:48,059 so you're right man I think it's perfect 1144 00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:52,800 they have got this down to a science 1145 00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:55,440 wow that is incredible 1146 00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:00,240 that is put into words that are easily 1147 00:54:04,210 --> 00:54:02,040 digestible I'm kind of all over the 1148 00:54:06,349 --> 00:54:04,220 place but that is a perfect 1149 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:06,359 explanation for 1150 00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,359 everything is happening in our reality 1151 00:54:15,470 --> 00:54:11,520 now imagine 1152 00:54:18,109 --> 00:54:15,480 if they can put that fake holographic 1153 00:54:20,569 --> 00:54:18,119 experience 1154 00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:20,579 that is designed 1155 00:54:29,470 --> 00:54:25,040 for a specific group of people into 1156 00:54:34,370 --> 00:54:32,089 right and I think that that's exactly 1157 00:54:36,170 --> 00:54:34,380 what they've done holy crap dude you 1158 00:54:38,450 --> 00:54:36,180 need to uh if you can send me that quote 1159 00:54:42,349 --> 00:54:38,460 or the document or whatever for sure man 1160 00:54:43,730 --> 00:54:42,359 I will it's I've got it yeah dude I 1161 00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:43,740 can't tell you where I got it but I got 1162 00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:45,200 it 1163 00:54:50,270 --> 00:54:47,460 please send that document to me because 1164 00:54:53,690 --> 00:54:50,280 that explains everything that I've been 1165 00:54:56,530 --> 00:54:53,700 trying to uh say and and explains it all 1166 00:54:59,210 --> 00:54:56,540 in a very neatly put together 1167 00:55:01,309 --> 00:54:59,220 a paragraph or a couple of paragraphs 1168 00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,319 that she just read incredible it's 1169 00:55:06,109 --> 00:55:03,839 incredible and you know the part that 1170 00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:06,119 really Spooks me is that it kind of says 1171 00:55:11,329 --> 00:55:08,280 anything can be done 1172 00:55:12,890 --> 00:55:11,339 if you have enough time allotted to 1173 00:55:15,770 --> 00:55:12,900 doing it you just can't force it too 1174 00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:15,780 quickly too too quickly too powerfully 1175 00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:18,839 or you will literally it sounds like the 1176 00:55:23,630 --> 00:55:21,480 individual whoever that is whether the 1177 00:55:26,210 --> 00:55:23,640 remote viewer or the quote-unquote 1178 00:55:27,410 --> 00:55:26,220 magician from a parapsychological 1179 00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:27,420 standpoint 1180 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,760 but whoever is doing the concentration 1181 00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:31,920 towards the desired objective you don't 1182 00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:34,319 want to push them too far because you 1183 00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:37,920 could dislocate them from this reality 1184 00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:40,319 even though think that the holographic 1185 00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:42,720 projection reality that they created in 1186 00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:45,839 their head was actually real yeah it 1187 00:55:51,069 --> 00:55:48,079 sounds like they would just I don't know 1188 00:55:54,109 --> 00:55:51,079 just completely 1189 00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:54,119 dislocate from our existing reality and 1190 00:55:59,390 --> 00:55:55,440 that's I don't know if that means they 1191 00:56:01,849 --> 00:55:59,400 would go mad or if we would have 1192 00:56:04,250 --> 00:56:01,859 something like a Mandela effect I I 1193 00:56:06,170 --> 00:56:04,260 really don't know what that means but I 1194 00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:06,180 think that the methodology involved 1195 00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:08,220 explains pretty well that it's pretty 1196 00:56:12,890 --> 00:56:10,619 scary much like you said just about 1197 00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,900 anything can be accomplished 1198 00:56:17,470 --> 00:56:15,119 if they put their minds to it no pun 1199 00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:17,480 intended 1200 00:56:24,349 --> 00:56:21,839 wow that's really incredible and it's um 1201 00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:24,359 I'm glad that that exists because it 1202 00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:26,460 just it just explained everything that 1203 00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:28,079 I've been trying to say this entire time 1204 00:56:31,609 --> 00:56:29,460 during this interview and what I've been 1205 00:56:33,010 --> 00:56:31,619 trying to say for like a year now you 1206 00:56:34,609 --> 00:56:33,020 know that 1207 00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,619 we 1208 00:56:38,329 --> 00:56:36,960 especially like an aggregorical reality 1209 00:56:39,950 --> 00:56:38,339 I've been trying to explain it in a 1210 00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:39,960 different way 1211 00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:44,000 um but the same outcome right like yeah 1212 00:56:48,109 --> 00:56:46,079 I think that's a really good way to 1213 00:56:52,490 --> 00:56:48,119 explain it yeah right you put your 1214 00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:52,500 thoughts ideas energies into and then 1215 00:56:57,470 --> 00:56:55,260 it becomes real in your reality and the 1216 00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:57,480 more people that believe 1217 00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:00,960 in that thought idea that's been created 1218 00:57:06,890 --> 00:57:04,200 the more power more power and more 1219 00:57:09,770 --> 00:57:06,900 energy that's been accumulated into it 1220 00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:09,780 makes it more real 1221 00:57:15,170 --> 00:57:13,140 in our reality and because I think that 1222 00:57:17,450 --> 00:57:15,180 we are that powerful that our 1223 00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:17,460 Consciousness is that powerful that it 1224 00:57:21,549 --> 00:57:20,280 can literally create something 1225 00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:21,559 that 1226 00:57:28,010 --> 00:57:24,839 isn't even real 1227 00:57:32,030 --> 00:57:28,020 now it can be real to us 1228 00:57:34,130 --> 00:57:32,040 right but a blanketed real reality for 1229 00:57:37,130 --> 00:57:34,140 everyone you know it's like people 1230 00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:37,140 looking for like a a singular truth 1231 00:57:40,450 --> 00:57:39,420 right they're just they want to blanket 1232 00:57:43,849 --> 00:57:40,460 it 1233 00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,859 singular truths out there they just and 1234 00:57:47,450 --> 00:57:45,359 if it doesn't align with their 1235 00:57:50,030 --> 00:57:47,460 previously established beliefs then they 1236 00:57:51,470 --> 00:57:50,040 throw it out the door right well I mean 1237 00:57:54,290 --> 00:57:51,480 I have news for a lot of these people 1238 00:57:57,410 --> 00:57:54,300 there is no singular truth 1239 00:58:00,770 --> 00:57:57,420 there is not one explanation 1240 00:58:02,930 --> 00:58:00,780 for all of this phenomena 1241 00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:02,940 it's multi-layered 1242 00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:05,520 there's different reasons for everything 1243 00:58:10,970 --> 00:58:08,880 and there's multiple reasons 1244 00:58:13,370 --> 00:58:10,980 for everything 1245 00:58:16,790 --> 00:58:13,380 things just don't happen for one 1246 00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:16,800 singular reason 1247 00:58:23,089 --> 00:58:19,920 it's a multi-layered 1248 00:58:24,890 --> 00:58:23,099 many branches to the tree 1249 00:58:30,170 --> 00:58:24,900 and there's branches on those branches 1250 00:58:32,329 --> 00:58:30,180 right and then 1251 00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:32,339 digging down deep and bringing this 1252 00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:35,760 whole thing down to earth and realizing 1253 00:58:43,609 --> 00:58:39,359 that a lot of this stuff is due to our 1254 00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:43,619 own psyche and what we are creating in 1255 00:58:48,410 --> 00:58:45,780 our reality and that's been the biggest 1256 00:58:51,170 --> 00:58:48,420 perpetuator of 1257 00:58:52,730 --> 00:58:51,180 the Aryan and E.T 1258 00:58:55,370 --> 00:58:52,740 phenomenon 1259 00:58:57,950 --> 00:58:55,380 right that's why it's a 1260 00:59:01,370 --> 00:58:57,960 spiritual experience that's why it's a 1261 00:59:04,910 --> 00:59:01,380 Consciousness experience as it's a like 1262 00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,920 a holographic projection 1263 00:59:09,170 --> 00:59:07,200 and that's also why 1264 00:59:11,450 --> 00:59:09,180 no one has 1265 00:59:14,510 --> 00:59:11,460 ever met a 1266 00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:14,520 physical extraterrestrial 1267 00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:17,280 that you can literally Reach Out And 1268 00:59:23,809 --> 00:59:20,400 Touch that's physical as me and you Ryan 1269 00:59:25,309 --> 00:59:23,819 yep that's sitting in your room that you 1270 00:59:28,730 --> 00:59:25,319 can reach out and shake hands with 1271 00:59:31,130 --> 00:59:28,740 that's not in a astral form that's not 1272 00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:31,140 in a dream state that you're not 1273 00:59:34,569 --> 00:59:33,119 experienced under experiencing under 1274 00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:34,579 some kind of 1275 00:59:41,089 --> 00:59:37,440 hallucinogenic drug or some other form 1276 00:59:45,530 --> 00:59:43,130 now that that is the reason because it's 1277 00:59:47,210 --> 00:59:45,540 when it was within us 1278 00:59:48,770 --> 00:59:47,220 it's happening within us is happening 1279 00:59:50,990 --> 00:59:48,780 within our head 1280 00:59:53,690 --> 00:59:51,000 within our psyche 1281 00:59:55,250 --> 00:59:53,700 that's why they're not physical 1282 00:59:58,430 --> 00:59:55,260 because they can't be physical because 1283 01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,440 they aren't a part of us and it's a 1284 01:00:01,789 --> 01:00:00,400 sort of fabrication 1285 01:00:03,970 --> 01:00:01,799 [Music] 1286 01:00:07,130 --> 01:00:03,980 of our 1287 01:00:08,930 --> 01:00:07,140 psyche our is exactly what you just 1288 01:00:10,430 --> 01:00:08,940 write in that uh document from the 1289 01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:10,440 Monroe Institute 1290 01:00:14,809 --> 01:00:12,960 and it's a holographic 1291 01:00:16,730 --> 01:00:14,819 projection 1292 01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:16,740 and when you take that holographic 1293 01:00:20,590 --> 01:00:19,440 projection as 1294 01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:20,600 something real 1295 01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:22,079 [Music] 1296 01:00:29,870 --> 01:00:24,660 then you you've just 1297 01:00:31,250 --> 01:00:29,880 you're just basically creating stuff 1298 01:00:33,710 --> 01:00:31,260 and putting it out there and that's why 1299 01:00:34,970 --> 01:00:33,720 no one has any physical evidence 1300 01:00:36,829 --> 01:00:34,980 that's why no one has any physical 1301 01:00:39,530 --> 01:00:36,839 evidence of 1302 01:00:42,109 --> 01:00:39,540 abductions 1303 01:00:44,809 --> 01:00:42,119 that's why people have never met a 1304 01:00:44,819 --> 01:00:47,870 because they're not physical 1305 01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:49,370 they're Within 1306 01:00:54,410 --> 01:00:53,040 you they are you and they're a part of 1307 01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:54,420 Inner Space 1308 01:00:57,950 --> 01:00:56,160 not outer space 1309 01:01:01,430 --> 01:00:57,960 so we've been programmed to think of 1310 01:01:03,770 --> 01:01:01,440 space as just being outer space right 1311 01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:03,780 none of these NASA doesn't say outer 1312 01:01:07,309 --> 01:01:05,760 space anymore none of these people ever 1313 01:01:09,170 --> 01:01:07,319 none of the three-letter organizations 1314 01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:09,180 they are forcing that ever say outer 1315 01:01:13,370 --> 01:01:11,760 space anymore they just say space 1316 01:01:16,490 --> 01:01:13,380 and we've been so programmed into 1317 01:01:18,530 --> 01:01:16,500 thinking that when we hear the word 1318 01:01:20,990 --> 01:01:18,540 space that they're automatically 1319 01:01:23,569 --> 01:01:21,000 referring to outer space when you look 1320 01:01:25,970 --> 01:01:23,579 up the definition of what space is space 1321 01:01:28,670 --> 01:01:25,980 can be anything 1322 01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:28,680 supposed to be extra room in your house 1323 01:01:33,890 --> 01:01:32,520 space can be the ocean 1324 01:01:36,770 --> 01:01:33,900 space could be 1325 01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:39,530 Inner Space 1326 01:01:45,049 --> 01:01:41,329 and also 1327 01:01:46,970 --> 01:01:45,059 that is what I believe a lot of this 1328 01:01:49,730 --> 01:01:46,980 phenomenon and 1329 01:01:52,670 --> 01:01:49,740 now I'm not trying to downplay you know 1330 01:01:54,890 --> 01:01:52,680 people's abduction experiences or their 1331 01:01:56,450 --> 01:01:54,900 contact experiences or anything like 1332 01:01:59,630 --> 01:01:56,460 that if they think that they experience 1333 01:02:01,730 --> 01:01:59,640 that then that's fine you know and the 1334 01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:01,740 real people that have experienced that 1335 01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:05,040 don't care what you say 1336 01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:06,540 they don't care 1337 01:02:10,130 --> 01:02:08,400 you can call them Liars you can call you 1338 01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:10,140 just tell them that their experiences 1339 01:02:14,030 --> 01:02:12,420 are are made up that it's all in their 1340 01:02:15,950 --> 01:02:14,040 head and that they have no evidence no 1341 01:02:18,289 --> 01:02:15,960 proof and they don't care 1342 01:02:21,230 --> 01:02:18,299 now the ones that do care 1343 01:02:24,010 --> 01:02:21,240 are the ones that have something to hide 1344 01:02:28,970 --> 01:02:24,020 and don't want to 1345 01:02:35,329 --> 01:02:31,069 it could be happening 1346 01:02:37,069 --> 01:02:35,339 in their head and not be real 1347 01:02:41,329 --> 01:02:37,079 it could be a fabrication that it could 1348 01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:41,339 be a holographic projection and that it 1349 01:02:49,130 --> 01:02:45,839 is actually coming from you 1350 01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:49,140 and then you get into the whole 1351 01:02:52,970 --> 01:02:50,700 um 1352 01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:52,980 can we even 1353 01:03:01,789 --> 01:02:57,119 travel in space too right I don't think 1354 01:03:04,910 --> 01:03:01,799 that a human body is meant to be in 1355 01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:04,920 space for long periods of time like you 1356 01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:09,900 need a certain procedure let's say to as 1357 01:03:15,170 --> 01:03:12,960 a human being to even go to Bali you 1358 01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:15,180 have to have a medical procedure to go 1359 01:03:21,530 --> 01:03:18,660 to Bali not surrounding 2020 or they've 1360 01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:21,540 been doing that forever yeah because 1361 01:03:26,270 --> 01:03:24,000 things are different there it's a 1362 01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:26,280 different kind of atmosphere it's a 1363 01:03:30,049 --> 01:03:28,400 different kind of um 1364 01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:30,059 yeah 1365 01:03:34,970 --> 01:03:32,160 not gravity but I can't think of the 1366 01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:34,980 words in it that I'm trying to say but 1367 01:03:40,370 --> 01:03:37,440 taking that into consideration what 1368 01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:40,380 would you need to go live on a a 1369 01:03:48,829 --> 01:03:46,309 I don't think that we could withstand 1370 01:03:52,370 --> 01:03:48,839 because we're born on Earth 1371 01:03:55,250 --> 01:03:52,380 our body is aligned with Earth's 1372 01:03:56,750 --> 01:03:55,260 atmosphere Earth's gravity 1373 01:04:00,770 --> 01:03:56,760 I don't think that we would be able to 1374 01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:00,780 walk around on any other planet as we do 1375 01:04:10,849 --> 01:04:06,829 and I don't think that anybody else 1376 01:04:13,970 --> 01:04:10,859 coming from a another planet 1377 01:04:16,849 --> 01:04:13,980 could walk around here and survive 1378 01:04:19,690 --> 01:04:16,859 I think it's impossible 1379 01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:19,700 and I think that that's the whole 1380 01:04:26,569 --> 01:04:23,280 augmentation side of this that they want 1381 01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:26,579 to get Humanity into you know this uh 1382 01:04:32,510 --> 01:04:30,480 cybernetic brain implant you know this 1383 01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:34,730 kind of AI driven 1384 01:04:43,549 --> 01:04:38,760 reality making us more machine uh and 1385 01:04:45,789 --> 01:04:43,559 more cyborg than human it's so that we 1386 01:04:48,890 --> 01:04:45,799 could possibly 1387 01:04:52,690 --> 01:04:48,900 exist in space and that we could 1388 01:04:56,030 --> 01:04:52,700 possibly exist on other planets and 1389 01:04:57,650 --> 01:04:56,040 colonize other planets because you know 1390 01:04:59,930 --> 01:04:57,660 and there's a lot of proof of this 1391 01:05:03,829 --> 01:04:59,940 Rudolph Steiner talks about talks about 1392 01:05:07,970 --> 01:05:03,839 it too that humans aren't meant to be 1393 01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:07,980 they can't exist in space as we are 1394 01:05:12,829 --> 01:05:11,520 right you know natural biological humans 1395 01:05:16,190 --> 01:05:12,839 now 1396 01:05:17,930 --> 01:05:16,200 it's impossible so you need some kind of 1397 01:05:19,609 --> 01:05:17,940 augmentation 1398 01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:19,619 some kind of 1399 01:05:25,849 --> 01:05:22,079 um enhancement 1400 01:05:29,809 --> 01:05:25,859 if you wanted to live in space or live 1401 01:05:31,849 --> 01:05:29,819 on any different planning and I think 1402 01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:31,859 that is kind of 1403 01:05:36,170 --> 01:05:34,140 their plan I mean we've seen that from 1404 01:05:38,569 --> 01:05:36,180 Elon Musk Elon Musk wants to colonize 1405 01:05:40,609 --> 01:05:38,579 Mars and he also wants to put a brain 1406 01:05:43,609 --> 01:05:40,619 implant in you 1407 01:05:46,190 --> 01:05:43,619 you know so something 1408 01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:46,200 's not lying out there 1409 01:05:50,510 --> 01:05:48,000 so 1410 01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:50,520 I don't know I don't think that 1411 01:05:53,930 --> 01:05:52,319 just like we can't go out into space 1412 01:05:55,849 --> 01:05:53,940 just like we can't walk around on other 1413 01:05:57,170 --> 01:05:55,859 planets as the biological human that we 1414 01:05:58,970 --> 01:05:57,180 are because we're actually from Earth 1415 01:06:00,289 --> 01:05:58,980 We're from Earth's atmosphere Earth's 1416 01:06:02,329 --> 01:06:00,299 gravity 1417 01:06:06,170 --> 01:06:02,339 all the things that are happening in the 1418 01:06:08,750 --> 01:06:06,180 skies around us I don't think that a 1419 01:06:13,809 --> 01:06:08,760 other species could come to the planet 1420 01:06:18,109 --> 01:06:13,819 as an organic being either and live 1421 01:06:20,569 --> 01:06:18,119 it's man I'm with you about going to 1422 01:06:24,190 --> 01:06:20,579 other planets the human body I'm with 1423 01:06:27,770 --> 01:06:24,200 you it does not seem feasible let alone 1424 01:06:31,730 --> 01:06:27,780 the fact that we are to believe 1425 01:06:34,730 --> 01:06:31,740 I'm not a scientist that astronauts ride 1426 01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:34,740 on a rocket or spacecraft going faster 1427 01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:36,660 than a bullet um 1428 01:06:40,849 --> 01:06:38,400 you know I 1429 01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:40,859 the fact that the 1430 01:06:46,730 --> 01:06:43,380 things in the Earth's orbit 1431 01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:46,740 around 250 miles above Earth are moving 1432 01:06:53,630 --> 01:06:50,760 up to 17 500 miles per hour according to 1433 01:06:58,250 --> 01:06:53,640 NASA which is about 10 times faster than 1434 01:07:01,370 --> 01:06:58,260 a speeding bullet and we know what a 1435 01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:01,380 bullet does to a human body so it can 1436 01:07:05,150 --> 01:07:02,760 only 1437 01:07:08,089 --> 01:07:05,160 make sense that moving that fast would 1438 01:07:11,329 --> 01:07:08,099 have some repercussion unless like you 1439 01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:11,339 said we are in some simplified mode we 1440 01:07:17,690 --> 01:07:14,220 were made more plastic in some way we 1441 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:17,700 can be more compatible with those speeds 1442 01:07:23,930 --> 01:07:21,599 on some level I just don't know what the 1443 01:07:25,370 --> 01:07:23,940 reality of them we know that astronauts 1444 01:07:28,190 --> 01:07:25,380 go through a lot I just don't know 1445 01:07:30,529 --> 01:07:28,200 exactly what and and I think that yeah 1446 01:07:32,690 --> 01:07:30,539 this transhumanist agenda 1447 01:07:35,410 --> 01:07:32,700 maybe there's something to all this I'm 1448 01:07:41,150 --> 01:07:38,270 yeah and also being in a rocket and 1449 01:07:43,309 --> 01:07:41,160 being going faster than a speeding 1450 01:07:45,710 --> 01:07:43,319 bullet through space a little Pebble 1451 01:07:48,770 --> 01:07:45,720 would completely destroy 1452 01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:48,780 your entire craft 1453 01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:51,240 you know you're going that fast you hit 1454 01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:53,760 a little I mean shoot 1455 01:07:58,910 --> 01:07:56,760 driving on a motorcycle down the highway 1456 01:08:00,589 --> 01:07:58,920 and a bug hits your face and you don't 1457 01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:00,599 have protective gear 1458 01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:04,160 that [\h__\h] stings bro oh yeah [\h__\h] 1459 01:08:07,970 --> 01:08:05,760 you know 1460 01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:07,980 so imagine 1461 01:08:14,809 --> 01:08:11,520 traveling fast as a bullet through space 1462 01:08:16,729 --> 01:08:14,819 you know in a little uh space rock or a 1463 01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:16,739 little debris 1464 01:08:20,269 --> 01:08:18,719 catch a rocket 1465 01:08:22,809 --> 01:08:20,279 it's done for 1466 01:08:24,829 --> 01:08:22,819 right that's why I don't 1467 01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,839 I don't think that we can travel in 1468 01:08:28,490 --> 01:08:26,400 space with standard rocketry I think 1469 01:08:31,490 --> 01:08:28,500 it's impossible yeah I don't think we 1470 01:08:34,189 --> 01:08:31,500 can really get outside of the uh the 1471 01:08:38,990 --> 01:08:34,199 Earth's atmosphere any standard rocket 1472 01:08:42,829 --> 01:08:39,000 for one Rockets are 90 fuel 1473 01:08:44,570 --> 01:08:42,839 and one of Ron Braun stated that it 1474 01:08:46,249 --> 01:08:44,580 would take a rocket the size of Empire 1475 01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:46,259 State Building to be able to get to the 1476 01:08:51,470 --> 01:08:48,960 moon and it's not because we needed that 1477 01:08:54,829 --> 01:08:51,480 size of a rocket to get there it's 1478 01:08:56,329 --> 01:08:54,839 because we needed that amount of gas 1479 01:08:58,970 --> 01:08:56,339 together 1480 01:09:02,390 --> 01:08:58,980 because a standard rocket 1481 01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:02,400 it's payload has to be 90 gas and that 1482 01:09:08,990 --> 01:09:06,719 leaves very little room for crew and uh 1483 01:09:10,970 --> 01:09:09,000 things that you actually need to survive 1484 01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:10,980 the trip 1485 01:09:19,130 --> 01:09:17,030 if anything I believe that we have 1486 01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:19,140 developed 1487 01:09:24,829 --> 01:09:21,600 highly advanced technology I mean we 1488 01:09:27,050 --> 01:09:24,839 have proof of this of the uh sonaro Aero 1489 01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:27,060 Club in the mid-1800s 1490 01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:29,359 creating 1491 01:09:33,709 --> 01:09:31,199 anti-gravity craft 1492 01:09:34,450 --> 01:09:33,719 in Northern California 1493 01:09:37,729 --> 01:09:34,460 um 1494 01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:37,739 petermannis and uh 1495 01:09:42,650 --> 01:09:40,560 Charles Del Shaw 1496 01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:42,660 uh and you can look that out there's 1497 01:09:47,090 --> 01:09:44,400 schematics there's 1498 01:09:48,829 --> 01:09:47,100 um drawings of the crafted they were 1499 01:09:50,930 --> 01:09:48,839 creating 1500 01:09:52,430 --> 01:09:50,940 Walter Bosley's written several books on 1501 01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:52,440 this 1502 01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:54,960 um then you fast forward a little bit to 1503 01:10:00,350 --> 01:09:58,080 World War II the Germans were also 1504 01:10:03,050 --> 01:10:00,360 working on something very similar 1505 01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:03,060 uh with the Bell technology 1506 01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:04,800 and I believe that the Bell technology 1507 01:10:12,290 --> 01:10:09,199 was a the engine of The Craft right 1508 01:10:16,430 --> 01:10:12,300 and they just strapped on the engine 1509 01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:16,440 onto a uh some kind of uh saucer shaped 1510 01:10:19,070 --> 01:10:18,000 craft in order for it to lift up off to 1511 01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:19,080 the ground but they were using a red 1512 01:10:23,149 --> 01:10:20,880 spinning Mercury 1513 01:10:26,410 --> 01:10:23,159 and the Sonora Arrow Club is using a 1514 01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:26,420 green spinning Mercury fuel additive to 1515 01:10:30,530 --> 01:10:29,520 lift to be able to lift the craft up off 1516 01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:30,540 of the ground 1517 01:10:37,850 --> 01:10:33,600 and then we have all of the German 1518 01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:37,860 Aerospace techs and scientists then all 1519 01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:40,320 of them coming to the United States 1520 01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:42,600 through project paper Club 1521 01:10:48,590 --> 01:10:45,120 then we have the Roswell event of 1947 1522 01:10:53,209 --> 01:10:48,600 two years after the war we have Admiral 1523 01:10:56,570 --> 01:10:53,219 Byrd going to Antarctica in 1946 it 1524 01:10:58,910 --> 01:10:56,580 ended in 1947 very very short trip 1525 01:11:01,250 --> 01:10:58,920 now the story is there I'm not too sure 1526 01:11:02,410 --> 01:11:01,260 but he did stop in 1527 01:11:06,169 --> 01:11:02,420 Chile 1528 01:11:08,510 --> 01:11:06,179 and I gave a statement there that some 1529 01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:08,520 at some point we're going to have to 1530 01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:12,960 fight technology that can go from pole 1531 01:11:16,490 --> 01:11:15,120 to pole in a matter of minutes it's not 1532 01:11:18,410 --> 01:11:16,500 the direct quote that's just me 1533 01:11:22,660 --> 01:11:18,420 paraphrasing 1534 01:11:24,410 --> 01:11:22,670 then 1962 we have the Washington 1535 01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,420 [Music] 1536 01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:26,480 proper van 1537 01:11:30,649 --> 01:11:28,320 1952 sorry 1538 01:11:32,810 --> 01:11:30,659 1952 is the Washington flag event which 1539 01:11:34,430 --> 01:11:32,820 is the UFOs that were spotted over the 1540 01:11:37,130 --> 01:11:34,440 White House 1541 01:11:39,770 --> 01:11:37,140 then we have the texberg event of 1542 01:11:45,470 --> 01:11:41,630 we have the first subduction before that 1543 01:11:46,850 --> 01:11:45,480 which was 1961 with Buddy and Barney 1544 01:11:48,890 --> 01:11:46,860 Hill and then we have the texberg event 1545 01:11:52,729 --> 01:11:48,900 in 1965. 1546 01:11:55,070 --> 01:11:52,739 then we go to the moon in 1969. 1547 01:11:58,689 --> 01:11:55,080 so whenever you look at all these events 1548 01:12:01,790 --> 01:11:58,699 in the sequence that it happens in you 1549 01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:01,800 realize that 1550 01:12:05,689 --> 01:12:03,840 the military CIA and student 1551 01:12:06,890 --> 01:12:05,699 organizations are doing MK Ultra 1552 01:12:09,530 --> 01:12:06,900 programs they're doing psychological 1553 01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:09,540 operations 1554 01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:12,480 they have this technology they've been 1555 01:12:16,970 --> 01:12:15,360 working on it since the 1800s which the 1556 01:12:19,310 --> 01:12:16,980 scenario Club was 1557 01:12:22,669 --> 01:12:19,320 funded uh 1558 01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:22,679 by Prussia which 1559 01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:25,679 pressure then became Germany 1560 01:12:31,550 --> 01:12:27,780 and so you have all these connections 1561 01:12:34,850 --> 01:12:31,560 here and evidence that 1562 01:12:38,270 --> 01:12:34,860 it's our technology that we've developed 1563 01:12:40,669 --> 01:12:38,280 and that we've created and the reverse 1564 01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:40,679 engineering aspect of all this stuff has 1565 01:12:45,169 --> 01:12:41,760 been 1566 01:12:49,130 --> 01:12:45,179 put into the consciousness of people uh 1567 01:12:51,709 --> 01:12:49,140 you know crashed uh Alien craft alien uh 1568 01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,719 technology uh retrieval and all that and 1569 01:12:56,270 --> 01:12:53,520 then we'd like reverse engineered it and 1570 01:12:58,850 --> 01:12:56,280 it's all from Aliens that's been put out 1571 01:13:03,110 --> 01:12:58,860 there in my personal opinion to cover up 1572 01:13:04,910 --> 01:13:03,120 the fact that it's us and that we've 1573 01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:04,920 created it and we have had the 1574 01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:07,679 technology for a really long time I mean 1575 01:13:13,490 --> 01:13:10,920 uh James Forrestal wanted to 1576 01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:13,500 release this technology and he was 1577 01:13:17,689 --> 01:13:14,400 really 1578 01:13:20,090 --> 01:13:17,699 uh good friends with JFK uh JFK was kind 1579 01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:20,100 of like his uh protein and there is 1580 01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:22,080 documentation that JFK and James 1581 01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:25,560 Forrestal both went to Germany 1582 01:13:32,750 --> 01:13:28,560 after World War II and their speculation 1583 01:13:37,070 --> 01:13:32,760 that they looked at the anti-gravity 1584 01:13:38,750 --> 01:13:37,080 craft that the Germans were working on 1585 01:13:41,930 --> 01:13:38,760 when they came back to the United States 1586 01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:41,940 JFK ran for Senate James Forrestal 1587 01:13:47,410 --> 01:13:43,679 became the very first Secretary of 1588 01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:47,420 Defense and that is where 1589 01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:54,950 fascinating man 1590 01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:57,360 and 1591 01:14:01,669 --> 01:13:59,280 James Warsaw wanted to release the 1592 01:14:04,250 --> 01:14:01,679 technology he wanted to be a a public 1593 01:14:05,570 --> 01:14:04,260 thing right he's like why why are we 1594 01:14:07,370 --> 01:14:05,580 holding on this why are we making this 1595 01:14:08,689 --> 01:14:07,380 so secretive 1596 01:14:12,050 --> 01:14:08,699 and 1597 01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:12,060 there was someone or something that 1598 01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:16,159 wanted to do this uh black budget style 1599 01:14:22,850 --> 01:14:20,400 you know keep it all under wraps not let 1600 01:14:27,830 --> 01:14:22,860 it get out to the public 1601 01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:27,840 and they made forest all out to be a uh 1602 01:14:34,490 --> 01:14:31,560 crazy wakadoo and they locked him up uh 1603 01:14:36,649 --> 01:14:34,500 Bethesda Hospital 1604 01:14:38,030 --> 01:14:36,659 and Naval Hospital 1605 01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:38,040 and 1606 01:14:43,070 --> 01:14:40,080 um 1607 01:14:45,229 --> 01:14:43,080 apparently no proof they killed him they 1608 01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:45,239 pushed him out of the uh yeah I think 1609 01:14:50,090 --> 01:14:46,800 you've seen story window or whatever 1610 01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:50,100 went a really high up window and they 1611 01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:51,600 said that it was suicide and that he 1612 01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:55,440 killed himself and I think that JFK was 1613 01:15:03,110 --> 01:14:58,320 trying to do this more 1614 01:15:07,330 --> 01:15:03,120 openly and not so secretive right and 1615 01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:07,340 because JFK was the first person in 1616 01:15:13,729 --> 01:15:10,800 61 I believe he made a statement to 1617 01:15:15,770 --> 01:15:13,739 Congress that we should be we should 1618 01:15:18,290 --> 01:15:15,780 focus our efforts to getting to the Moon 1619 01:15:22,250 --> 01:15:18,300 by the end of the decade and then again 1620 01:15:24,649 --> 01:15:22,260 in 62 at Rice Stadium I might not be 100 1621 01:15:26,209 --> 01:15:24,659 sure on those dates but it's around that 1622 01:15:29,330 --> 01:15:26,219 area he made that statement of rice 1623 01:15:31,010 --> 01:15:29,340 stadium in that to the public that we 1624 01:15:33,530 --> 01:15:31,020 should you know focus our efforts to get 1625 01:15:36,350 --> 01:15:33,540 into the Moon by the end of the decade 1626 01:15:39,010 --> 01:15:36,360 and I personally believe that that was 1627 01:15:43,610 --> 01:15:39,020 JFK's push 1628 01:15:45,770 --> 01:15:43,620 to let them reveal the technology that 1629 01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:45,780 we had and he was trying to do it out in 1630 01:15:49,970 --> 01:15:47,219 the open because he's seen what happened 1631 01:15:52,010 --> 01:15:49,980 to his friend and his buddy James 1632 01:15:54,290 --> 01:15:52,020 Forrestal 1633 01:15:56,810 --> 01:15:54,300 he was making a big push to reveal the 1634 01:15:58,850 --> 01:15:56,820 technology internally 1635 01:16:00,350 --> 01:15:58,860 and 1636 01:16:02,390 --> 01:16:00,360 they killed him 1637 01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:02,400 again speculation don't know for sure if 1638 01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:04,080 they killed him or not but he ended up 1639 01:16:09,229 --> 01:16:06,480 dying right put it that way and then so 1640 01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:09,239 JFK went back and he was like huh how 1641 01:16:14,030 --> 01:16:10,560 can I do this 1642 01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:15,890 right and he was like well I'll just do 1643 01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:17,520 it out in the open 1644 01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:19,920 I'll just try and force their hand to 1645 01:16:25,790 --> 01:16:21,840 reveal the technology 1646 01:16:28,250 --> 01:16:25,800 early because I believe he knew that we 1647 01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:28,260 couldn't get to the moon in standard 1648 01:16:33,530 --> 01:16:31,440 rocketry so he was like okay well let me 1649 01:16:35,810 --> 01:16:33,540 try and push this out early we'll we'll 1650 01:16:37,189 --> 01:16:35,820 make a statement to say oh we should 1651 01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:37,199 focus our office to get into the Moon by 1652 01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:38,640 the end of the decade 1653 01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:41,040 and that will 1654 01:16:45,470 --> 01:16:43,199 force them to 1655 01:16:48,830 --> 01:16:45,480 you know reveal this anti-gravity craft 1656 01:16:50,330 --> 01:16:48,840 in the real way that we might possibly 1657 01:16:53,149 --> 01:16:50,340 get to the moon 1658 01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:53,159 but they ended up killing him anyway and 1659 01:16:58,970 --> 01:16:56,760 that's not the only reason for the uh 1660 01:17:01,550 --> 01:16:58,980 assassination right it's there's many 1661 01:17:05,870 --> 01:17:01,560 many more reasons so I don't want people 1662 01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:05,880 to think or believe that that it was the 1663 01:17:10,130 --> 01:17:08,159 only reason that um he was killed or 1664 01:17:13,130 --> 01:17:10,140 assassinated because it's not that's 1665 01:17:14,750 --> 01:17:13,140 just not I uh one of the many 1666 01:17:17,870 --> 01:17:14,760 possibilities 1667 01:17:19,070 --> 01:17:17,880 that he could have been taken out there 1668 01:17:20,930 --> 01:17:19,080 so 1669 01:17:22,430 --> 01:17:20,940 I think that's what that's what was 1670 01:17:24,169 --> 01:17:22,440 going on and we know that the Apollo 1671 01:17:28,130 --> 01:17:24,179 missions were 1672 01:17:30,110 --> 01:17:28,140 actually designed to set up military 1673 01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:30,120 bases 1674 01:17:35,390 --> 01:17:33,600 on other planets in our solar systems on 1675 01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:35,400 other moons it wasn't just meant to go 1676 01:17:40,610 --> 01:17:38,159 to the Moon it was meant to go to uh 1677 01:17:41,930 --> 01:17:40,620 Mars and all these other places to set 1678 01:17:44,450 --> 01:17:41,940 up uh you know basically the 1679 01:17:46,850 --> 01:17:44,460 militarization of space 1680 01:17:47,870 --> 01:17:46,860 and that was a statement that was uh 1681 01:17:50,930 --> 01:17:47,880 kind of 1682 01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:50,940 you know out there in the uh early 60s 1683 01:17:54,530 --> 01:17:52,860 whenever we decided that we were going 1684 01:17:56,470 --> 01:17:54,540 to try and make it to the moon but then 1685 01:17:59,689 --> 01:17:56,480 they just brushed it under the rug 1686 01:18:00,590 --> 01:17:59,699 they're like forget that we didn't say 1687 01:18:02,270 --> 01:18:00,600 that we didn't make any of those 1688 01:18:04,130 --> 01:18:02,280 statements and then it just went uh 1689 01:18:06,050 --> 01:18:04,140 black and it just went super dark and 1690 01:18:07,490 --> 01:18:06,060 there's another 1691 01:18:09,890 --> 01:18:07,500 thing here that's proof of 1692 01:18:11,810 --> 01:18:09,900 militarization of space which is 1693 01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:11,820 um operation Looking Glass are you 1694 01:18:15,470 --> 01:18:13,199 familiar with operation Looking Glass 1695 01:18:21,709 --> 01:18:15,480 amazing yeah but let's tell our 1696 01:18:29,330 --> 01:18:26,030 not a technology to see into the future 1697 01:18:32,390 --> 01:18:29,340 or into the past it's an actual Air 1698 01:18:37,149 --> 01:18:32,400 Force Command Post 1699 01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:37,159 in space with the ability to Launch 1700 01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:39,360 nukes from Earth 1701 01:18:45,169 --> 01:18:42,960 in the event that a the ground-based 1702 01:18:47,990 --> 01:18:45,179 communications center is rendered 1703 01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:48,000 unusable or destroyed 1704 01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:49,520 and so 1705 01:18:56,590 --> 01:18:53,040 in the secret space program people in 1706 01:19:00,290 --> 01:18:56,600 SSP people and super soldiers have taken 1707 01:19:03,050 --> 01:19:00,300 that concept that Looking Glass concept 1708 01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:03,060 and turned it into something that it's 1709 01:19:08,090 --> 01:19:06,000 not it's a it's another cover-up they 1710 01:19:10,010 --> 01:19:08,100 don't want you to know that 1711 01:19:13,610 --> 01:19:10,020 they have already 1712 01:19:16,010 --> 01:19:13,620 militarized space and that space force 1713 01:19:19,930 --> 01:19:16,020 was just a 1714 01:19:24,350 --> 01:19:19,940 uh rebranding of a 1715 01:19:26,810 --> 01:19:24,360 previously existing program 1716 01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:26,820 that we had been up there since 1962 1717 01:19:33,950 --> 01:19:30,600 whenever or 1961 went operation Looking 1718 01:19:36,530 --> 01:19:33,960 Glass uh became an actual program which 1719 01:19:38,750 --> 01:19:36,540 is another interesting thing is that the 1720 01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:38,760 Air Force was running NASA's test 1721 01:19:44,330 --> 01:19:40,560 flights 1722 01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,340 in 1961 the Gemini program uh and 1723 01:19:47,930 --> 01:19:46,320 there's another one I can't uh think of 1724 01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:47,940 off the top of my head but they're 1725 01:19:52,189 --> 01:19:50,400 running two different NASA test sites 1726 01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:52,199 the Air Force was it wasn't NASA that 1727 01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:54,840 was actually running them and they never 1728 01:19:59,450 --> 01:19:58,320 got outside of the uh upper atmosphere 1729 01:20:03,050 --> 01:19:59,460 of the planet 1730 01:20:05,450 --> 01:20:03,060 and I think that is 1731 01:20:07,850 --> 01:20:05,460 the signal that gave 1732 01:20:09,470 --> 01:20:07,860 JFK because they never broke out of the 1733 01:20:11,090 --> 01:20:09,480 upper atmosphere of the planet because I 1734 01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:11,100 don't believe that they can with 1735 01:20:17,570 --> 01:20:14,159 standard rockets and JFK was like okay 1736 01:20:20,689 --> 01:20:17,580 this is my this is my cue right here to 1737 01:20:23,890 --> 01:20:20,699 try and get them to 1738 01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:23,900 um force their hand to reveal 1739 01:20:31,610 --> 01:20:26,159 anti-gravity craft and what we've been 1740 01:20:33,169 --> 01:20:31,620 working on since um uh the the late 40s 1741 01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:33,179 man 1742 01:20:39,530 --> 01:20:37,260 it's so amazing and you know I know 1743 01:20:41,810 --> 01:20:39,540 we're going over here a bit but I need 1744 01:20:43,490 --> 01:20:41,820 to say that you are 1745 01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:43,500 super impressing me with all your 1746 01:20:49,490 --> 01:20:46,080 research into all this and I think it's 1747 01:20:53,570 --> 01:20:49,500 super important at this time given all 1748 01:20:57,770 --> 01:20:53,580 of the UAP uh the sadaloon 1749 01:21:00,830 --> 01:20:57,780 the satellite Chinese balloon the um the 1750 01:21:04,430 --> 01:21:00,840 stuff being shot down out of the sky by 1751 01:21:08,030 --> 01:21:04,440 our military fighter pilots and the fact 1752 01:21:10,330 --> 01:21:08,040 that Werner Von Braun if I'm not 1753 01:21:12,770 --> 01:21:10,340 mistaken on his Deathbed 1754 01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:12,780 purportedly or allegedly 1755 01:21:22,250 --> 01:21:17,820 said that there would be a 1756 01:21:25,370 --> 01:21:22,260 attempt to psychologically operate a 1757 01:21:29,450 --> 01:21:25,380 false Alien Invasion and 1758 01:21:34,189 --> 01:21:32,390 I think that's a bunch of nonsense uh 1759 01:21:35,810 --> 01:21:34,199 to personally I don't think that we'll 1760 01:21:37,729 --> 01:21:35,820 ever get a 1761 01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:37,739 any kind of 1762 01:21:43,930 --> 01:21:40,800 um Alien Invasion false or not because 1763 01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:43,940 what what would be the reason to do that 1764 01:21:51,709 --> 01:21:48,239 there's zero reason in my book for 1765 01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:51,719 them to even attempt a 1766 01:21:58,010 --> 01:21:54,960 false flag Alien Invasion or a if it's a 1767 01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:58,020 real alien invasion why would real 1768 01:22:02,510 --> 01:21:59,760 aliens 1769 01:22:04,729 --> 01:22:02,520 come here and invade 1770 01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,739 it makes absolutely no sense if it's 1771 01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,480 about control 1772 01:22:12,050 --> 01:22:08,159 it still doesn't make any sense Ryan 1773 01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:12,060 because they've proven over and over and 1774 01:22:18,110 --> 01:22:15,840 over again that they can control the 1775 01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:18,120 public the population and control the 1776 01:22:30,250 --> 01:22:26,810 they've proved that several times 1777 01:22:32,630 --> 01:22:30,260 2020 is a really great example yeah 1778 01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:32,640 they've proven that they can shut down 1779 01:22:37,550 --> 01:22:34,800 the economy they can shut down the world 1780 01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:37,560 at uh one foul swoop just like that 1781 01:22:42,410 --> 01:22:40,320 without aliens it was spooky 1782 01:22:44,630 --> 01:22:42,420 they they've proven that they can 1783 01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:44,640 psychologically manipulate people that 1784 01:22:50,270 --> 01:22:46,320 they can 1785 01:22:52,189 --> 01:22:50,280 um put something on the TV that isn't 1786 01:22:53,930 --> 01:22:52,199 necessarily true and get people to 1787 01:22:56,030 --> 01:22:53,940 believe in it 1788 01:22:57,229 --> 01:22:56,040 without aliens 1789 01:23:03,530 --> 01:22:57,239 so 1790 01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:03,540 about this that believes in the 1791 01:23:07,310 --> 01:23:04,320 um 1792 01:23:11,149 --> 01:23:07,320 the the alien threat narrative and the 1793 01:23:14,330 --> 01:23:11,159 false flag Alien Invasion or even a real 1794 01:23:16,610 --> 01:23:14,340 Alien Invasion because again if it's a 1795 01:23:18,410 --> 01:23:16,620 real alien Vision then what would be the 1796 01:23:21,169 --> 01:23:18,420 point of that as well 1797 01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:21,179 it doesn't seem like we're really we're 1798 01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,000 not doing anything wrong I don't believe 1799 01:23:29,209 --> 01:23:26,400 I think that this reality is just 1800 01:23:31,669 --> 01:23:29,219 set up the way that it is because that's 1801 01:23:35,390 --> 01:23:31,679 the way that it is 1802 01:23:37,490 --> 01:23:35,400 you know like if they're coming to save 1803 01:23:39,050 --> 01:23:37,500 us like what are what are they really 1804 01:23:41,649 --> 01:23:39,060 coming to save us 1805 01:23:46,189 --> 01:23:41,659 [Music] 1806 01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:46,199 it doesn't make any sense the reality is 1807 01:23:50,090 --> 01:23:47,760 that 1808 01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,100 we're just here to experience this 1809 01:23:54,169 --> 01:23:52,320 reality now yes is there a corruption 1810 01:23:55,550 --> 01:23:54,179 well there's going to be corruption 1811 01:23:57,530 --> 01:23:55,560 there's going to be all these different 1812 01:23:59,450 --> 01:23:57,540 secrets in the in the government being 1813 01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:59,460 like that because of The Duality that we 1814 01:24:04,010 --> 01:24:01,199 have here on this planet 1815 01:24:05,450 --> 01:24:04,020 that's always going to exist 1816 01:24:10,729 --> 01:24:05,460 you can't 1817 01:24:12,830 --> 01:24:10,739 rid this reality of polarity and duality 1818 01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:12,840 if you do then 1819 01:24:19,070 --> 01:24:16,560 we no longer exist as this physical 1820 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,729 we would be someplace else 1821 01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:25,970 and that's what why I think that we're 1822 01:24:29,570 --> 01:24:27,600 so special here Ryan and people really 1823 01:24:31,550 --> 01:24:29,580 just need to uh 1824 01:24:33,770 --> 01:24:31,560 dive head first 1825 01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:33,780 into this reality and quit thinking that 1826 01:24:39,169 --> 01:24:36,719 is shitty or that it's stupid and that 1827 01:24:41,630 --> 01:24:39,179 they hate it 1828 01:24:44,750 --> 01:24:41,640 they shouldn't hate it you should love 1829 01:24:47,450 --> 01:24:44,760 it and embrace it and realize that it's 1830 01:24:49,310 --> 01:24:47,460 just a part of the process of 1831 01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:49,320 being here 1832 01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:50,880 some people have 1833 01:24:54,890 --> 01:24:54,000 religious circumstances and I recognize 1834 01:25:02,810 --> 01:24:54,900 that 1835 01:25:08,030 --> 01:25:02,820 kind of 1836 01:25:13,070 --> 01:25:09,830 you know and 1837 01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:13,080 it's really no one's fault but 1838 01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:15,840 but our our own fault we've let it get 1839 01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:18,239 to this point if we hate it so much we 1840 01:25:22,490 --> 01:25:19,679 should have done something about it 50 1841 01:25:28,490 --> 01:25:26,570 or 23 years ago 1842 01:25:30,530 --> 01:25:28,500 you know we should we should have seen 1843 01:25:32,570 --> 01:25:30,540 this coming 1844 01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:32,580 you know we should have stood up and 1845 01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:34,800 done something about it then now we're 1846 01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:36,719 just letting it ride out 1847 01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:38,480 and we're just going along with every 1848 01:25:43,310 --> 01:25:41,760 agenda and every thought an idea that's 1849 01:25:44,510 --> 01:25:43,320 given to us 1850 01:25:47,450 --> 01:25:44,520 you know it really seems like they're 1851 01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:47,460 trying to extinguish critical thought 1852 01:25:52,310 --> 01:25:49,920 and Common Sense from 1853 01:25:54,590 --> 01:25:52,320 the consciousness of everybody on the 1854 01:25:56,990 --> 01:25:54,600 planet all at the same time 1855 01:25:59,830 --> 01:25:57,000 and again that's done through trauma 1856 01:26:03,770 --> 01:25:59,840 drugging psychological manipulation 1857 01:26:08,930 --> 01:26:03,780 harmful frequencies the TV the screen 1858 01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:09,770 um 1859 01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:14,159 I just don't think that they need a 1860 01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:15,600 Volkswagen 1861 01:26:24,649 --> 01:26:20,880 alien invasion they don't need a a real 1862 01:26:27,169 --> 01:26:24,659 alien invasion to accomplish their goals 1863 01:26:29,090 --> 01:26:27,179 they can do it without all that and 1864 01:26:30,890 --> 01:26:29,100 honestly it would 1865 01:26:33,169 --> 01:26:30,900 probably be 1866 01:26:35,810 --> 01:26:33,179 way easier to do 1867 01:26:39,770 --> 01:26:35,820 you know and I want someone to come up 1868 01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:39,780 with a good explanation of the reason 1869 01:26:43,250 --> 01:26:41,340 why 1870 01:26:45,770 --> 01:26:43,260 they would do it 1871 01:26:48,530 --> 01:26:45,780 no because logically speaking critical 1872 01:26:51,530 --> 01:26:48,540 thinking speaking Common Sense speaking 1873 01:26:56,510 --> 01:26:53,390 and based off that I don't think that 1874 01:27:03,229 --> 01:26:59,870 we are pretty easy to control man uh 1875 01:27:07,250 --> 01:27:03,239 it's fair enough I think I think your 1876 01:27:11,390 --> 01:27:07,260 explanation is 100 on target I think 1877 01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:11,400 earlier you mentioning the fact that a 1878 01:27:16,189 --> 01:27:13,199 lot of this stuff is being used much 1879 01:27:20,030 --> 01:27:16,199 like an agrigor is beyond super 1880 01:27:22,850 --> 01:27:20,040 impressive and we wonder why many of the 1881 01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:22,860 top one percent Elites and government 1882 01:27:28,370 --> 01:27:25,920 rulers are rumored to believe in ancient 1883 01:27:31,370 --> 01:27:28,380 mystery religions and practice rituals 1884 01:27:32,689 --> 01:27:31,380 that in effect back up to the theory of 1885 01:27:35,330 --> 01:27:32,699 agrigors 1886 01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:35,340 but you know it does seem like they 1887 01:27:41,270 --> 01:27:39,600 believe in natural law and that these 1888 01:27:44,510 --> 01:27:41,280 sorceress Elites and their secret 1889 01:27:47,930 --> 01:27:44,520 societies and world power Brokers who 1890 01:27:50,810 --> 01:27:47,940 kind of plot the the different moves 1891 01:27:52,729 --> 01:27:50,820 that are made upon us no something we 1892 01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:52,739 don't know and I agree with you man I'm 1893 01:27:56,689 --> 01:27:54,239 glad there's people like you out there 1894 01:28:00,530 --> 01:27:56,699 that are kind of seeing through all this 1895 01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:00,540 and you tantalized me uh tremendously 1896 01:28:05,689 --> 01:28:03,840 man with Charles Del Shaw uh Walter 1897 01:28:07,189 --> 01:28:05,699 Bosley and that red spinning Mercury 1898 01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:07,199 that's something I need to look more 1899 01:28:11,870 --> 01:28:09,840 into that sounds super cool 1900 01:28:13,790 --> 01:28:11,880 um as we wrap up let's tell listeners 1901 01:28:17,330 --> 01:28:13,800 where they can keep up with all things 1902 01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:17,340 writerly and raised by Giants 1903 01:28:22,129 --> 01:28:20,159 yes sir thanks so much for having me on 1904 01:28:24,830 --> 01:28:22,139 um Ryan I really appreciate you very 1905 01:28:27,470 --> 01:28:24,840 fascinating uh conversation but before I 1906 01:28:28,610 --> 01:28:27,480 do that you you were mentioning uh to me 1907 01:28:31,310 --> 01:28:28,620 the other day that you've been 1908 01:28:32,649 --> 01:28:31,320 investigating in into a little bit of 1909 01:28:35,090 --> 01:28:32,659 the uh 1910 01:28:37,250 --> 01:28:35,100 societies and stuff can you give people 1911 01:28:39,770 --> 01:28:37,260 a little idea of what you've been 1912 01:28:44,030 --> 01:28:39,780 looking into recently yeah it's been 1913 01:28:46,669 --> 01:28:44,040 really crazy and very strange uh my alma 1914 01:28:50,450 --> 01:28:46,679 mater of the University of Utah 1915 01:28:53,330 --> 01:28:50,460 is well for for I'll just cut to the 1916 01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:53,340 Chase has an order of three two two the 1917 01:28:59,930 --> 01:28:55,440 Skull and Bones there 1918 01:29:02,689 --> 01:28:59,940 um it is one that started in 1910 1909 1919 01:29:05,629 --> 01:29:02,699 depending on who you talk to and what 1920 01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:05,639 the history books say but uh a very 1921 01:29:11,149 --> 01:29:06,960 secretive 1922 01:29:14,330 --> 01:29:11,159 second Branch or order of 322 skull and 1923 01:29:17,810 --> 01:29:14,340 bones and obviously everybody knows or 1924 01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:17,820 many people know in our in our realm 1925 01:29:22,970 --> 01:29:20,639 that that is originally from Yale 1926 01:29:26,689 --> 01:29:22,980 University so I've been looking into 1927 01:29:30,169 --> 01:29:26,699 that and yeah just kind of looking at 1928 01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:30,179 you know some of the interesting 1929 01:29:35,689 --> 01:29:33,840 stuff taking place uh possibly in the 1930 01:29:38,450 --> 01:29:35,699 shadows and 1931 01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:38,460 what you know how they 1932 01:29:44,750 --> 01:29:42,000 members of many of these groups 1933 01:29:46,850 --> 01:29:44,760 don't coincidentally arrive where they 1934 01:29:50,570 --> 01:29:46,860 tend to 1935 01:29:52,250 --> 01:29:50,580 arrive in life they are sort of placed 1936 01:29:54,050 --> 01:29:52,260 there 1937 01:29:55,610 --> 01:29:54,060 yeah it's really fascinating I'm gonna 1938 01:29:58,430 --> 01:29:55,620 have to do some more research into it 1939 01:30:00,229 --> 01:29:58,440 into the uh the white Brotherhood and 1940 01:30:02,270 --> 01:30:00,239 dark brotherhood because I feel like 1941 01:30:05,209 --> 01:30:02,280 this has been a 1942 01:30:07,850 --> 01:30:05,219 a battle between 1943 01:30:11,209 --> 01:30:07,860 a lot of different 1944 01:30:14,090 --> 01:30:11,219 secret societies on what direction to 1945 01:30:16,610 --> 01:30:14,100 push Humanity toward 1946 01:30:19,610 --> 01:30:16,620 you know like I think it boils down to 1947 01:30:23,390 --> 01:30:21,350 do we give them the knowledge or we 1948 01:30:26,510 --> 01:30:23,400 don't give them the knowledge 1949 01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:26,520 right do do we give 1950 01:30:32,930 --> 01:30:29,280 everybody on the planet uh all the the 1951 01:30:34,610 --> 01:30:32,940 secrets and ideas and beliefs that we 1952 01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:34,620 have would would they be able to handle 1953 01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:35,760 it 1954 01:30:42,050 --> 01:30:40,560 all for ourselves and I think there's 1955 01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:42,060 been some people 1956 01:30:46,910 --> 01:30:44,159 like I was explaining with um James 1957 01:30:48,649 --> 01:30:46,920 Forrestal in regards to the technology 1958 01:30:50,990 --> 01:30:48,659 he wanted to release the technology but 1959 01:30:52,490 --> 01:30:51,000 everyone was against them right and I 1960 01:30:54,590 --> 01:30:52,500 think that 1961 01:30:58,850 --> 01:30:54,600 there's been a few people 1962 01:31:01,310 --> 01:30:58,860 throughout throughout our history that 1963 01:31:03,830 --> 01:31:01,320 have wanted to release knowledge that's 1964 01:31:08,270 --> 01:31:03,840 been a part of some of these 1965 01:31:11,689 --> 01:31:08,280 secret societies and uh the the the 1966 01:31:14,930 --> 01:31:11,699 white Brotherhood and 1967 01:31:16,669 --> 01:31:14,940 those kinds of groups that's wanted to 1968 01:31:18,830 --> 01:31:16,679 release the knowledge and let it be 1969 01:31:20,750 --> 01:31:18,840 public information but they've been 1970 01:31:23,629 --> 01:31:20,760 stopped 1971 01:31:25,370 --> 01:31:23,639 somewhere along the way but yeah I think 1972 01:31:29,570 --> 01:31:25,380 that's a very interesting definitely 1973 01:31:33,470 --> 01:31:31,610 it's pretty epic yeah you start looking 1974 01:31:36,709 --> 01:31:33,480 down it and it's it's it's an 1975 01:31:40,850 --> 01:31:38,990 yes Ryan thanks so much for having me on 1976 01:31:43,370 --> 01:31:40,860 I appreciate you people can find me on 1977 01:31:45,290 --> 01:31:43,380 YouTube at raised by Giants on Roxanne 1978 01:31:48,770 --> 01:31:45,300 and raised by a Giants on all the 1979 01:31:52,250 --> 01:31:48,780 different podcast platforms as well and 1980 01:31:55,490 --> 01:31:52,260 on Instagram at raised by Giants pod and 1981 01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:55,500 I just recently made a tick tock so nice 1982 01:32:00,169 --> 01:31:57,840 I know people people are gonna hate me 1983 01:32:02,689 --> 01:32:00,179 whatever but I think that it'll be a 1984 01:32:05,149 --> 01:32:02,699 good promotional tool for my show and 1985 01:32:06,950 --> 01:32:05,159 that's really all that is for is uh just 1986 01:32:11,570 --> 01:32:06,960 you know promoting my show and I think 1987 01:32:14,990 --> 01:32:11,580 that we have to utilize as many of these 1988 01:32:18,110 --> 01:32:15,000 um social media platforms as possible to 1989 01:32:21,770 --> 01:32:18,120 get the word out and uh get 1990 01:32:25,430 --> 01:32:21,780 um you know solid factual information to 1991 01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:25,440 people and uh also on Twitter at raised 1992 01:32:29,030 --> 01:32:27,600 by giants8 thanks so much brother 1993 01:32:31,390 --> 01:32:29,040 appreciate your time here this evening 1994 01:32:35,689 --> 01:32:31,400 thank you man 1995 01:32:39,530 --> 01:32:35,699 Ryder Lee bring in the Heat and telling 1996 01:32:42,770 --> 01:32:39,540 us how it is definitely go over and 1997 01:32:47,149 --> 01:32:42,780 check out Ryder Lee at raised by giant 1998 01:32:48,530 --> 01:32:47,159 support him on the new tick tock and uh 1999 01:32:50,510 --> 01:32:48,540 yeah 2000 01:32:53,290 --> 01:32:50,520 it's it's something you should check out 2001 01:32:55,669 --> 01:32:53,300 he's always bringing impressive 2002 01:32:58,250 --> 01:32:55,679 tantalizing information to the Forefront 2003 01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:58,260 much respect for that and I always 2004 01:33:01,729 --> 01:33:00,239 appreciate talking to him and having him 2005 01:33:05,390 --> 01:33:01,739 on 2006 01:33:06,530 --> 01:33:05,400 if you have not subscribed to Hero 2007 01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:06,540 paranormal 2008 01:33:11,810 --> 01:33:08,400 on patreon 2009 01:33:14,570 --> 01:33:11,820 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were impossible to 2026 01:34:33,830 --> 01:34:30,060 explain 2027 01:34:36,350 --> 01:34:33,840 took me over six hours to figure it out 2028 01:34:39,649 --> 01:34:36,360 it was literally as if somebody came in 2029 01:34:41,030 --> 01:34:39,659 and muted uh from time to time one or 2030 01:34:44,450 --> 01:34:41,040 both of us 2031 01:34:47,930 --> 01:34:44,460 it took tons of work from an audio 2032 01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:47,940 perspective to even get it in a mode 2033 01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:49,199 that was 2034 01:34:56,689 --> 01:34:53,040 utterly listenable at any length 2035 01:34:58,430 --> 01:34:56,699 and it was it was a nightmare uh volumes 2036 01:35:01,189 --> 01:34:58,440 up and down 2037 01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:01,199 mutings and I don't know if it was 2038 01:35:08,629 --> 01:35:06,000 necessarily just the revelations that 2039 01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:08,639 writer Lee brought to the table 2040 01:35:13,550 --> 01:35:11,280 or if there was something more it was 2041 01:35:17,450 --> 01:35:13,560 very strange very odd never happened 2042 01:35:19,430 --> 01:35:17,460 before to that extent but uh I want to 2043 01:35:21,530 --> 01:35:19,440 apologize for the audio at least we got 2044 01:35:23,570 --> 01:35:21,540 the message across hopefully in some